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11-20-2010, 03:54 PM
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11-20-2010, 04:30 PM
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I've never been a big fan of FM change thingy. If someone found the way to lock up core FM, fine. But prohibiting tens thousands players of having add-on new maps, new aircrafts, better looking cockpits, beautiful effects, smarter AI... just for the sake of some online players is just absurd.
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11-20-2010, 04:40 PM
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I'm just going to stick to stock releases... I've seen enough of the mods screwing things up online for people that I'm quite ok with just doing things with the stock releases. The good thing in my mind about all of these changes is that some of the teams are using the tools available to pump out some really quality materials - if they do them to the right specifications there isn't any reason in my mind why Team Daidalos can't include them in future releases.
So it's not a bad thing. Some of the Team Pacific works for instance are incredible. I hope to see more from them and others!
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11-20-2010, 05:40 PM
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To be honest, i don't mind reuniting the community. What i totally object to however is reuniting it by force and implementing an overnight lack of choice.
If the day dawned that i'd lose all that extra content in the form of maps, aircraft and loadouts, i'd simply stop flying IL2 altogether and just wait for SoW. Not all user made content is high quality, but i'm always in favor of having choices. I don't mind having some low quality stuff thrown in, after all it's free and i can choose not to use it. Same goes for multiplayer, it's the business of the server admins to decide what kind of gameplay they want on their server and take appropriate action. For example, if a server crew wants to run semi-accurate scenarios that balance historical accuracy with equal chances of winning for both teams, it's their job to design the mission in a way to do that and also to make sure they get the planeset correct. However, this is no different to what was happening before the user made content arrived. You can have perfectly unbalanced or inaccurate scenarios and planesets with vanilla IL2 as well. Maybe even more so in fact, since you don't have the extra aicraft to balance things out and you end up with a very annoying dilemma: do we ommit team A's aicraft X, that was historically present in the battle, to balance the lack of team B's aircraft Y ,that was also historically used and can match X evenly but is missing from the vanilla version, or do we just bite the bullet and fly the mission with plane X reigning supreme over the rest of the planeset? It's just that choices are many more today and some people get swamped by them, understandably so i might say. The solution to that however is not to take away features that in one form or another are enjoyed by half the community. I'd be willing to bet that if the game was locked, hyperlobby would see a marked and very steep decline in the amount of people flying IL2. The community would not be reunited, it would simply shrink to half its size and the foundations set for some pretty bad blood to run, which is not very clever to do a few months before the release of the successor series. |
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11-20-2010, 06:10 PM
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Anyway, I doubt DT would want to do that. There is currently a healthy relationship between modders and DT, which has seen a number of projects start life as mods and become part of the official patches, so why ruin a good thing. Last edited by David603; 11-20-2010 at 06:14 PM. |
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11-20-2010, 07:15 PM
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This discussion is rehashed every so often, so let's just repeat some facts which never seem to sink in.
1) Authors and/or distributors of the Il2 never authorized modding. According to the EULA, it is actually forbidden. 2) Oleg Maddox expressed his dissatisfaction that the protection was broken on several occasions. 3) Lack of legal action does not imply approval of mods.
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11-21-2010, 08:54 AM
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C'mon, the mods exist - and the thing that splits the community is the fact that we are not allowed to point out that the emperor has no clothes... |
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11-21-2010, 01:32 AM
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11-21-2010, 02:35 AM
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After 4 or 5 years online in the early years of the sim, I have never flown online even ONCE since the hacking and mods, not even on the un-modded vanilla servers as it changed the type of person that played online and the nature of the online game.
2 points to make. - locking the code with 4.10 will not get players like me back online - the current mod players with their hotrod spitfires, bar-less fw190's and proton torpedo equipped 0.50 cal (the sort that kills tigers) are never going to give up the mods to play a vanilla 4.10. Those players would just stick to 4.09 modded. Overall its very much "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted" it would never work and if anything would be detrimental. |
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