Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[AndyJWest]

...it is called accountability

And who exactly are TD accountable to?

Given the attitude of some people, I could understand it if they said '*** the lot of you, if you can't do anything but moan, we'll find something else to do with our free time'...

[BadAim]

Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.

[bf-110]

So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more eficcient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.

[nzwilliam]

Originally Posted by bf-110

So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more efficient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.

IMHO - the type of bugs they're probably trying to identify and solve are the type of bugs that are deal breaker types that lock up your machine, drag your performance down to unflyable frame rates or conflicts that corrupt your install and generally bugger up everything. There would be allot of variables they need to test before they can be confident it won't be unstable.

I'm sure the last thing they or you want is to release an unstable beta patch that is not everything they were intending it to be, undoes all their hard work and requires a rushed fixer patch for those that rushed to install it can fly again - or a complete re-install, which would unnecessarily annoy allot of people.

It's in everyone's best interest to let TD do their thing, for as long as it takes, it's up to them when they think it's safe for general community download. It might seem that a dozen or more beta testers wouldn't be as fast as 100 or more but in reality trying to sift through all the complaints and error reports to get to the bottom of 1000 problems in a forum style feedback system would be an absolute nightmare. It would be much better to have a small group with direct contact with those developing it...as they have now.

Just my opinion

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by bf-110

So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.

The open Beta for 4.09 just generated a heap of whining about "make it official".

People will whine and whinge no matter what you do.

Hopefully TD are aware that the majority of players are extremely grateful for their hard and free work and patiently await the next exciting update

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by bf-110

So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more eficcient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.

Then we would trade release whining for "OMG it doesn't work... TD suxxxx0rs" whining.

[Avimimus]

Well at least it would be a change then

They say a change is as good as a rest - might get us 4.11 faster? Or maybe we should buy some machines for TD members that make whining noises? I'd pitch in.

[bf-110]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Then we would trade release whining for "OMG it doesn't work... TD suxxxx0rs" whining.

Lol?
Thought by the SSs everything was going well,no major bugs,at least.
Wanted to help,since till august I have plenty free time.

[Ernst]

At less i would like to known what is happening. No respect at all with IL2 fans.

[Majo]

Just maybe we forgot that this people have been able to make things work not too long ago.

These people, and yes I mean the TD team members, didn’t start just now to deliver value to this sim.
As individuals, they have been doing so for quite a while and the community has been able to appreciate it.

With some perspective, most of us have a clear idea of how this sim has evolved in the last year and a half.
How things have change in the virtual skies and how our own expectations have also change.

Does anyone know where the limit is…?

When things have become formal, when the team signs some kind of agreement, when 4.10 cohabitates
(competes?¿) with the SoW updates, only then… things seem to be getting confusing and maybe difficult
to explain or understand.

I am sure, almost, that this is a matter of “management of expectations”. We see ourselves as clients but
also as members of a community.
As clients “WE WANT” as members of the community “WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND”.

Salutes Majo.