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Old 07-29-2010, 01:34 AM
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It would be time we have any probable date of release
TD will probably release it when it's ready. They probably shouldn't have given an expected release date in the first place. They probably won't make the same mistake again...
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:25 PM
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They probably should release it if they said they would. Project management would PROBABLY help on the next release. Free time or not, if you say your going to do it then do it. it is called accountability.

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Old 07-29-2010, 05:44 PM
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...it is called accountability
And who exactly are TD accountable to?

Given the attitude of some people, I could understand it if they said '*** the lot of you, if you can't do anything but moan, we'll find something else to do with our free time'...
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:42 PM
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Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:28 PM
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So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more eficcient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:51 PM
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So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more efficient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.
IMHO - the type of bugs they're probably trying to identify and solve are the type of bugs that are deal breaker types that lock up your machine, drag your performance down to unflyable frame rates or conflicts that corrupt your install and generally bugger up everything. There would be allot of variables they need to test before they can be confident it won't be unstable.

I'm sure the last thing they or you want is to release an unstable beta patch that is not everything they were intending it to be, undoes all their hard work and requires a rushed fixer patch for those that rushed to install it can fly again - or a complete re-install, which would unnecessarily annoy allot of people.

It's in everyone's best interest to let TD do their thing, for as long as it takes, it's up to them when they think it's safe for general community download. It might seem that a dozen or more beta testers wouldn't be as fast as 100 or more but in reality trying to sift through all the complaints and error reports to get to the bottom of 1000 problems in a forum style feedback system would be an absolute nightmare. It would be much better to have a small group with direct contact with those developing it...as they have now.

Just my opinion
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:31 AM
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Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:08 AM
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I think you are just overexaggerating a little bit. There are many people in the world who provide free softwares (including games, and big ones in our genres) or other stuffs. They also have their daily obssession. But once they made a promise, they would try their best to fulfill it. It is called responsibility, which has nothing to do with money. One should be responsible to what he/she said. They should try hard to live up to their promise. Just imagine how the world will become if everyone doesn't care about what he/she said.

Making promise gives other people hope, which is also a pleasure. Fullfilling it will greatly delight yourself and those people even more. So don't give people pleasure and then destroy it.

Make a promise, and live up to it. Or don't make any at all.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:17 AM
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Make a promise, and live up to it. Or don't make any at all.
So you are telling TD not to release the patch?

Exactly what 'promise' did anyone make anyway? Look at the original posting:
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4.10 Patch Overview - updated weekly
- all listed planning and content is subject to change by DT or 1C/MG
It was only ever provisional, and has since been substantially revised by (amongst other things) 1C/MG giving access to development software that TD didn't have - in the short term, this obviously slowed things down.

Can I suggest that anyone who feels 'let down' by TD stops complaining, unless they have something constructive to add. Endless whining isn't going to make anything happen quicker...
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:22 AM
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So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.

The open Beta for 4.09 just generated a heap of whining about "make it official".

People will whine and whinge no matter what you do.

Hopefully TD are aware that the majority of players are extremely grateful for their hard and free work and patiently await the next exciting update
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