Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Billfish I've been wondering about something Ki-61 related. You mentioned in your posts about the Ki-61-Id (Id was called "Tei" right?). Would the Id be difficult to add and would it have any sort of performance advantage over the earlier Ki-61s? I'm thinking about multiplayer scenarios where it would be nice to have a intermediate level aircraft in those early 1944 scenarios.

The Ki-61-I-Tei / Kai / 1d, had some aspects of it redesigned which would affect performance.....However know ALL of the Hiens in the sim have errors not touched on in which alters combat performance.

First off, pilot armor, fuel tank armor, radiator armor, all evovled and strengthened throughout the Ki-61-I series of 4 types. In the sim as far as I can tell they are all the same.....Next, as fuel tank armor increased, capacity decreased. Add to that the Ko had a fuselage tank. Weights were rather consitant from the Ko-Hei in that as armament and armor grew larger fuel capacity shrank.

As to the Tei, though seeming rather similar it had some significant changes made. Systems were simplified and improved, the tailwheel was finally fixed (in the sim only the Ko's retracts which is wrong), and maintenence was improved, and the Hei's fuel tank fire suppression system remained........As to performance it's armor would be like the Hei's for the most part. However armament changed in which 20mm Ho-5 cannon were added to the fuselage, Ho-103 retained in the wings. The 20mm round was longer then the 12.7 of the Ho-103, so to that end the fuselage was lengthened, and ultimately the tail was "upsized" for balance and control all in all increasing the length .19m. Those various changes bumped up the weight of the Tei by roughly 350-400Kg.. That is a significant change, so naturally it would not climb as well or handle the "same" though the larger tail made up for some of that and it ultimately lost 10km/h off its top end speed.

In the end however, it was produced more by itself then the Ko-Otsu-Hei versions combined. The most common Hien of the war, and for all intensive purposes the last as the Ki-61-II never made it into true production and release to units.

K2

[R0NNC0]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think Grumman may have inadvertently done a great service to the historical understanding of WWII. By discouraging concentration on the easiest market - US 'planes that won the war', and instead forcing 1C:Maddox and later TD to look at a broader range of aircraft, they have effectively counteracted the 'Tom Hanks' factor that reduces the entire period to a simplistic morality tale. Of course 1C:Maddox were trying to run counter to this from the start, but the threat of legal action if they followed the Hollywood line helped keep them on their course.

Maybe in the future, but not in IL2. The Grumman planes were already in the sim when 1C:MG shot themselves in the foot with bad legal advice.

[csThor]

It was more a question of timing. I don't think anyone involved thought that the extent of Grumman's claims is justified, but AFAIK they got in touch with Ubi shortly before release of PF so they caught everyone on the wrong foot. Checking Grumman's claims would have cost time, time that Ubisoft either didn't want to spend or didn't have (for it would cost a lot of money to hold the release machinery). Had that happened months earlier then I'd bet that a judge would have told Grumman where to shove its claim (keyword: dark and smelly place, no sun).

[ElAurens]

Well, I do hope the entire Grumman affair can be turned around.

Why?

After B0B. the next theater will be the Med. You cannot have Med Ops without the Grumman F4F Wildcat/Martlett for Operation Torch, and it's use by the Royal Navy in general.

Any aircraft from any country that is kept from us because of these petty legal concerns is a loss to all of us.

No single country won the war on it's own, and no country could have won without the help of all the others involved.

[Xilon_x]

the story is not 'ignorance of history need not repeat the same mistakes.
But strangely human mistakes are repeated forever and ever in history.
should review and understand the causes and reasons for injustice and motivation strategies that lead the human race to make history war. studying the history and 'an experience the history and' the meaning of what we today.I Young people are obliged to know the story because 'history and you learn new ideas for the future.

guys, any news from Caspar? I emailed him and PMd him, but got no answer yet. Is he ok?

[bf-110]

Originally Posted by csThor

(keyword: dark and smelly place, no sun).

Damn,not in my classroom...
To the hell with Grumman,what about other planes,like italian,french,polish and english?

[Xilon_x]

This is RARE the last photo ww2 of Piaggio p 108 and Pilot BRUNO MUSSOLINI the son of BENITO MUSSOLLINI dead during landing in Pisa yes the piaggio P.108 operating especialy in GIBILTEIR and after go to ENGLAND for battle of brittain but the incident of BENITO MUSSOLINI'S SUN BRUNO abborted the piaggio p108 heavy bombers mission in ENGLAND.


please loock this is original photo and rare of ww2:
http://www.gavs.it/FotodelNonno/Phot...8_polidori.htm

[Xilon_x]

incident and dead of Bruno Mussolini Code Number of airplane is 22003

[F19_lacrits]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think Grumman may have inadvertently done a great service to the historical understanding of WWII. By discouraging concentration on the easiest market - US 'planes that won the war', and instead forcing 1C:Maddox and later TD to look at a broader range of aircraft, they have effectively counteracted the 'Tom Hanks' factor that reduces the entire period to a simplistic morality tale. Of course 1C:Maddox were trying to run counter to this from the start, but the threat of legal action if they followed the Hollywood line helped keep them on their course.

A sim with no Grumman aircraft in it its a darned sight more realistic than one where only Grumman aircraft win.

The other day I was browsing update info on one of my previous favorit games; BattleField 2 - Forgotten Hope mod. There was an announcement that the mod team had to pull release of a new western front map, namely "Ramelle". It was Mr. Spielburg and Hanks who objected to the use of that map with the name as they had copy writes to the whole "Ramelle"-thingy. Ok, Ramelle never existed irl, neither the town or the battle.. But hey, I wonder which Spielburg/Hanks and Co. employee who sits and playes BF2/FH2 mod and .. "Wait a sec, my boss owns the rights to all and anything related to "Saving Private Ryan" and "Ramelle".. I'm gonna tell my boss!"