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Old 03-11-2010, 01:12 PM
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What does it matter? You should be keeping that 300Euro for SoW
Im going to build a new PC,when the Farmi's release
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Old 03-12-2010, 03:43 AM
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Im going to build a new PC,when the Farmi's release
I hope you check Bencmarks from games before you do, and than think if its worth the extra money compaired to a HD5870... so far from the Game benches ive seen its not worth the money at all.
That it scores really great in a Benchmark like Unique Heaven DX11 doesnt mean a thing for gaming performance, there are no games yet (non in development also) using that technology.

If the Prices and Game Benchmarks are true i wouldnt be suprised if 2011 starts with out nVidia, dont think anyone would want to pay twice as much compaired to a HD5870 for less than 5% gain, in some games it seems the HD5870 is even faster then the GTX 480.

And for 3D or PhysX alone... AMD/ATI is working on 3D drivers, and there about to release there Physics engine.

But we just have to wait till some more Benches show up that are reliable from difrent games, and what the real price is on the Fermi.
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:30 AM
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Decieded not to post anymore in this thread but couldn't ressist,
Very intresting stuff here to read betwee lines:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=8

IL-2/SoW wise looks to be still NV's but a lot of money to spend.
It may be that 2 ATI cards can out deliver what 1 NV card does with better efficiency and better performance to $ ratio.

My money is still waiting for ATI improved drivers and NV 4x0 power consumption and heat...

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Old 03-12-2010, 11:11 AM
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My uneducated and non-IT pro guess is that ATI/AMD have to pull their act together with driver support and I am sure they will. They have no other option as Fermi is coming. ATI's strong point has been and will be comparable performance with less price and less power usage, nVidia has been good with drivers in general except this last blooper of frying cards. Their hardware is fast as well. Either brand card you take I am sure you get a ton of speed to ANY game you play So matter of preference really, no need to be a fanboi there. I will get another 5870HD or the new 2Gb 5970
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:26 AM
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My uneducated and non-IT pro guess is that ATI/AMD have to pull their act together with driver support and I am sure they will. They have no other option as Fermi is coming. ATI's strong point has been and will be comparable performance with less price and less power usage, nVidia has been good with drivers in general except this last blooper of frying cards. Their hardware is fast as well. Either brand card you take I am sure you get a ton of speed to ANY game you play So matter of preference really, no need to be a fanboi there. I will get another 5870HD or the new 2Gb 5970
Flanker,do chek space in your rig for long card as 5970.
If I refund my 5850 with ATI make, 2 5870 would be my choice-better performanc with no need to overclok that 5970 which has own probs due to pcb design(http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=657)

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Old 03-12-2010, 11:29 AM
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If it does not fit I buy a new tower But seriously, a second 5870HD would do just fine and my current PSU would be enough for them with some room to spare.
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:05 PM
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Im going for a AMD Phenom II 965 or a new faster model, AMD 890 chipset Crossfire mobo and ATI/AMD HD5870 (2x) and 8GB RAM for my new rig.

Not willing to spend much more on a Intel based rig and an nVidia card for just a few % more performance.

You cant even say how ATI and nVidia are going to compair yet with SoW at all btw, you just have to wait till the Cards are out, and probably than till SoW comes out to be sure.
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:00 PM
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Flanker,do chek space in your rig for long card as 5970.
If I refund my 5850 with ATI make, 2 5870 would be my choice-better performanc with no need to overclok that 5970 which has own probs due to pcb design(http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=657)

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I have to agree, the 5870 and 5970 are huge cards, make sure your case has plenty of room. I recently bought the SilverStone Raven II case, it's got a great ventilation design as the motherboard is rotated 90 degrees so all peripherals are fixed vertically and it has heaps of 120mm fans. It's a bit funky looking but there is also a plainer version the FT02.
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