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02-21-2010, 12:53 AM
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Wow.... I go out for the day and the thread doubles in length!
Wolf_Rider, you'd make a great politician or lawyer. thank you for your kind words, but neither take my fancy Neither AndyJWest or TheGrunch have an issue with NP developing their own interface. I have noticed that, and I don't believe anyone has indicated otherwise We all have a problem with games not accepting standard axis inputs for head tracking, for the nth time. PPJoy and TIR2joy does this, doesn't it? We also have a problem with businesses which lobby game devs, to get them to not accept standard axis inputs. why would NP have both PPJoy and TIR2joy listed on their site, for download, if this was truly the case? You seem to avoid making comments directly about the above issue, instead changing the question, or choosing to comment about businesses protecting their interests instead, or a completely unrelated issue, regarding NP dealing with "hackers". The true point of the matter is exactly that of NP dealing with hackers... and please don't go twisting things around Also, Wolf_Rider, you asked for proof of NP being in a financial arrangement with Ubi, in order for them to "moderate" discussion of freetrack. I'll accept that this is not proof, however I have read it on the Ubi forum that there is a "sponsorship" arrangement between Ubi and NP which causes the issue to be "moderated". I'm looking for the post now, but it's a bit hard when the search terms needed have all been "moderated" out. err, no..... proof was asked of grunch's allegations that NP were locking out other software/ hardware developers, in order to run a monopoly. grunch stated he had no proof, yet continues to make allegation... please don't alter the issue there. regarding what other forums run by developers/ publishers do in relation to content on their forums, or in their product; why should any developer/ publisher support an outfit which hacks a company's software and (on their public forums) openly supports hacks and intimidation of other companies? Last edited by Wolf_Rider; 02-21-2010 at 01:02 AM. |
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02-21-2010, 01:04 AM
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check the link supplied to grunch yesterday...
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02-21-2010, 01:15 AM
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02-21-2010, 01:17 AM
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oh do keep trying andyjwest... haven't you shot enough holes in your own foot yet?
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02-21-2010, 01:22 AM
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that's the only link I've given to grunch yesterday andyjwest... is there something you don't understand again?
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02-21-2010, 01:38 AM
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02-21-2010, 01:57 AM
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It's a workaround, for sure, but there are still no generic head tracking inputs, when it's obvious that there should be. Some games also limit what you can input to head pose without TIR - eg limited to 2DoF when you emulate mouse movement.
as mentioned before, all that is between the developer and the various headtracking people... and so it seems that FT need not violate NP copyright at all then Out of interest, can you post a link? Head trackers don't pop up in the "game controllers" control panel, and games do not communicate with them like almost all other gaming hardware. So it is truly not the case. Also, without seeing the context in which the links you mentioned are posted, I'm guessing that it's a workaround for early TIR owners who would otherwise have been screwed by NP's move to the encrypted interface, by making games ignore TIR 1, 2 and 3 (which cannot communicate in encrypted form like TIR 4+ does) I'm sorry but you'll need to do your own homework there... Actually, the point at any one time is the question or statement that you choose to respond to. Things would OT rather quickly in that regard... better to just stick to the topic at hand Quote: Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider [I]err, no..... proof was asked of grunch's allegations that NP were locking out other software/ hardware developers, in order to run a monopoly... please don't alter the issue there. See: Quote: Originally Posted by TheGrunch Go to the Ubisoft forum, see for yourself. Start a topic about Freetrack and see what happens. If there's not a payment of some description in effect there, what's happening? Care to provide a theory? And your response: Quote: Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider err nooo, that's still an allegation. Where is your proof? But if you want proof of the locking out, see my link from early (post 15) in this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...0&postcount=40 The entire thread is at : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.ph...080#post589080 you should have mentioned the post above that one, which mentions an NDA.... also in your linked post, take note of the last sentence Quote: Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider regarding what other forums run by developers/ publishers do in relation to content on their forums, or in their product; why should any developer/ publisher support an outfit which hacks a company's software and (on their public forums) openly supports hacks and intimidation of other companies?[/COLOR] They should not support a "hacking outfit". IMO they should allow discussion. why should they do that?... its the product which quite often gets hacked What intimidation? we could go around in circles for page after page on that one..... |
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