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[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

i did i traded in il2 and ofpdragon rising the two biggest letdowns of the year and brought dragon age origins and it worked great not experianced any probs playing it so far apart from its bloody hard i hate dwarfs (fantasy type not rl ones)

But to be fair, that is offline only which is much easier for developers to get right. Having said that, I don't know what platform you are on, but Dragon Age is also not without it's problems (on PS3):

Originally Posted by kotaku

Hated
Bugs Aplenty: My time with the PlayStation 3 version of Dragon Age was not without troubles. In fact, my 40 or so hours in the game were plagued with annoying little glitches that, while not breaking the game completely, did hamper the experience. Some special combat animations were way off, with my character performing finishing blows in the air next to the boss I had just downed. Sound glitched frequently, leaving me watching a character's lips move while no words came. On a few occasions the screen would glitch when a character was speaking, showing broken geometry instead of the person talking. I also had issues with monsters dying and taking up to 30 seconds to register as dead, making me have to wait to loot bodies and in some cases delaying the completion of certain quests.

Perhaps the biggest bug I encountered was during the final battle, when I simply could not progress. BioWare suggested it was due to a monster I needed to kill falling through the world. I wound up having to load a previous save in order to complete the game. Luckily the game had autosaved just before the battle started, but it was definitely more frustration than I needed.

Chugga Chugga Frame Rate: Dragon Age is a pretty game, but when it really starts moving, things get ugly. With only a couple of characters on the screen things aren't too bad, leaning towards the high 20's frame rate-wise, but when you're in a big battle or a crowd scene, things dip into the middle to high teens. Mind you I am guestimating here...it's not like I have some magical PS3 FPS tool, but the dip is definitely noticeable.

Source.

Sound familiar? People just choose to hate on IL2 (and Dragon Rising) more simply because they had higher expectations, not because the game is any more broken than other games.

(And there's plenty more for Dragon Age.)

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

But to be fair, that is offline only which is much easier for developers to get right. Having said that, I don't know what platform you are on, but Dragon Age is also not without it's problems (on PS3):


Source.

Sound familiar? People just choose to hate on IL2 (and Dragon Rising) more simply because they had higher expectations, not because the game is any more broken than other games.

(And there's plenty more for Dragon Age.)

hmm well on 360 i havnt experianced any of those problems
as for framerates i cant comment as so far ive only been in small scale battles

not had a single glitch yet

as for the bodys taking ages to register i think i might have the solution i thought the same but then i realised that if you loot the first body that you killed then it lets you loot the next etc i dont know why but it does

and i guess your right about the offline comment

yea i had high expectations for dragon rising for sure i mean me and house even defended the game to death on this forum against an onslaught of cod fanboys witch hurt even more when you finialy get the game and find out that you have been lied to
ie: no freeroam
no hop into a vehicle like you were led to belive yea for sure there were vehicles but they were few and far between apart from hummers and chinese jeeps

multiplayer was good at first but you soon discover the flaws i mean the first game online i played the mission where you are the chinese in the back of the truck i jumped out with my squad and the truck drives off and there hanging in the air was a nice neat double line of rifles floating in the air MATRIX style ???

then there is the multiplayer issue of bullit sponges i unloaded my entire ammo load into an enermy soldier to no avail thats five reloads and full mags to the head i mean the guy would be like swiss cheese lol
so yea i was a bit dissapointed to say the least


anyway ive traded in il2 so it no longer is getting on me nerves waiting for the patch so it dont bother me anymore
but i will still come on here to talk to the great guys ive met and played with i just wont be bashing the game ,devs ,publishers etc anymore i mean there would be no point i dont even own the game anymore

also if the [patch does come and the multiplayer experiance is raised from the dead (360 ver.) i might go and buy a secondhand copy




just checked that thread you posted and that is for dragon age pc version ?? did that come out before the console versions ?? they might of had time to fix the bugs before releasing on consoles?
anyway im gonna do a review once ive compleated the storyline im doing for house and if there are any bugs clitches etc i will tell you guys it will be a honest review

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

hmm well on 360 i havnt experianced any of those problems
as for framerates i cant comment as so far ive only been in small scale battles

not had a single glitch yet

as for the bodys taking ages to register i think i might have the solution i thought the same but then i realised that if you loot the first body that you killed then it lets you loot the next etc i dont know why but it does

and i guess your right about the offline comment

yea i had high expectations for dragon rising for sure i mean me and house even defended the game to death on this forum against an onslaught of cod fanboys witch hurt even more when you finialy get the game and find out that you have been lied to
ie: no freeroam
no hop into a vehicle like you were led to belive yea for sure there were vehicles but they were few and far between apart from hummers and chinese jeeps

multiplayer was good at first but you soon discover the flaws i mean the first game online i played the mission where you are the chinese in the back of the truck i jumped out with my squad and the truck drives off and there hanging in the air was a nice neat double line of rifles floating in the air MATRIX style ???

then there is the multiplayer issue of bullit sponges i unloaded my entire ammo load into an enermy soldier to no avail thats five reloads and full mags to the head i mean the guy would be like swiss cheese lol
so yea i was a bit dissapointed to say the least


anyway ive traded in il2 so it no longer is getting on me nerves waiting for the patch so it dont bother me anymore
but i will still come on here to talk to the great guys ive met and played with i just wont be bashing the game ,devs ,publishers etc anymore i mean there would be no point i dont even own the game anymore

also if the [patch does come and the multiplayer experiance is raised from the dead (360 ver.) i might go and buy a secondhand copy




just checked that thread you posted and that is for dragon age pc version ?? did that come out before the console versions ?? they might of had time to fix the bugs before releasing on consoles?
anyway im gonna do a review once ive compleated the storyline im doing for house and if there are any bugs clitches etc i will tell you guys it will be a honest review

with you 100% Daz, gutting

[Riceball]

Yep. No major bugs in my 360 version.

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by House MD 221B

with you 100% Daz, gutting

i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???

Precisely, also none of us thought ANYONE could get it THAT wrong! I mean, it's like nobody played the multilayer before the release, even Stevie Wonder would have seen THOSE bugs! Single player was pretty good though, just the multiplater that let it down. Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

[dazz1971]

LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"

haaaaaa!!!! classic

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by House MD 221B

...QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

incorrect, there are many of both, including the poor multi-player coding. But I'm not going to discuss this with you, because you blindly believe that its amazing, so if you reply to this I shall not indulge you in another boring conversation where you disagree with me. Largely Daz and I were discussing Operation Flashpoint 2 anyway.