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[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

i thought you might
i know you loved playing the original as much as i did and you defended it as much as me that hurt the most i mean they lied about the game to the very ppl that brought the game on day of release and who had fought for its honor (sort of) and then to find out everything they had promised misled you in trailers and promo vids was lies !!

dont know about you but i felt a complete twonker afterwards



i dont really understand the whole flashpoint thing at all i mean codies other games are all great ???

Precisely, also none of us thought ANYONE could get it THAT wrong! I mean, it's like nobody played the multilayer before the release, even Stevie Wonder would have seen THOSE bugs! Single player was pretty good though, just the multiplater that let it down. Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

[dazz1971]

LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

LMAO I can see it now Ray and Stevie in a room beta testing flashpoint

SW:"hello is it me your shooting at"
RC: "hit the road jack"

haaaaaa!!!! classic

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by House MD 221B

...QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

It's not QA's job to report design problems, although they can make suggestions (which can obviously be ignored). QA are there to discover bugs, of which there aren't many. All the common issues cited on this forum are design issues, not bugs.

incorrect, there are many of both, including the poor multi-player coding. But I'm not going to discuss this with you, because you blindly believe that its amazing, so if you reply to this I shall not indulge you in another boring conversation where you disagree with me. Largely Daz and I were discussing Operation Flashpoint 2 anyway.

[InfiniteStates]

Yeah put words in my mouth then run away. Real mature. I don't deny BoP has problems at all, I just maintain that the game is playable and fun inspite of them. But learn to differentiate between a bad design decisions and software faults. They are very different.

"Blindly"? Based off many weeks of solid play? OK.

Flashpoint is horrendously buggy though.

EDIT: and don't try to side step your bullshit statement with that lie - what I quoted was very much to do with BoP:

Originally Posted by House MD 221B

Same with IL-2, single player was ok apart from P51 stuff, I LOVED it, it's just again, QA of multilayer was non existent, unless they got Ray Charles to do it.

[Shadowcorp]

QA work is a slow process especially in multiplayer where the variables many and can be very hard to replicate.
Variables which include
1 upload/download speed of the various players
2 the various combinations of aircraft being used
3 the various set ups of levels e.g weather time of day
4 number of players
5 stability of network/lan being played across (steam, live, psn)

Then there is all the player actions (which in a 3d environment is alot) in conjuction with those list above; that cause a bug to occur, some bugs maybe be one time bugs that cannot be replicated and are in part due to local conditions on the device in question.
Others are repeat bugs and need to be exactly replicate two or three time to confirm their existence the they get sent to the programmers to be fixed

Understand the process before you whine. They are releasing a fix so they have been working on the probelms where other companies wouldn't have bothered

[IiI GUNNY IiI]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Yeah put words in my mouth then run away. Real mature. I don't deny BoP has problems at all, I just maintain that the game is playable and fun inspite of them. But learn to differentiate between a bad design decisions and software faults. They are very different.

"Blindly"? Based off many weeks of solid play? OK.

Flashpoint is horrendously buggy though.

EDIT: and don't try to side step your bullshit statement with that lie - what I quoted was very much to do with BoP:

JUST POSTING to remind you YOUR A BLIND BRAIN WASHED JERK..LOL JUST TESSING,,HAVE NOT MESSED WITH YOU THIS WEEK...

Ok Let me say this and "spain it to me Lucy". MULTI player stuff on the other games I play FORZA and COD seem to be ez to change.Scoring Issues,game styles,etc,etc,and stuff connected to on line play.Is the stuff for multi player different from normal play .My question could things like SCORING and how much you get for a kill and what you get for a death.Is that stuff different from the rest of the game and could things have been changed in the server with out of whole update??????

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

Ok Let me say this and "spain it to me Lucy". MULTI player stuff on the other games I play FORZA and COD seem to be ez to change.Scoring Issues,game styles,etc,etc,and stuff connected to on line play.Is the stuff for multi player different from normal play .My question could things like SCORING and how much you get for a kill and what you get for a death.Is that stuff different from the rest of the game and could things have been changed in the server with out of whole update??????

Sorry, man - I can only understand about every 5th word. Are you asking why BoP needs a full update where as other games can change their scoring systems easily?

[durangodoug]

I think he's asking why we have to wait for a huge patch when they could've maybe released several small updates to fix small things within multiplayer.