Friday 2009-11-06 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by proton45

And yet, some other people seem obsessed with the idea of turning a great "flight combat sim" into a "first person land/sea/air combat sim"...Oleg has already stated his feelings on the issue, but I guarantee we will read (yet another) question that relates to the issue.

I think you're confusing people commenting on capabilities of the engine and people commenting on the game. Bear in mind that what Oleg and company are working on is first and foremost a game engine, and sales of the engine are likely to be nearly as important as sales of the game itself. I think the number of comments relating to that sort of thing are more because it's the first engine that looks like it might be capable of producing a semi-decent simulation of a number of different types of fighting all at the same time than because they expect Maddox Games to do so themselves. I don't think anyone's expecting any departure from the flight-sim genre from Oleg and co.

[Necrobaron]

I agree. Some of the questions seem to be a little nit-picky in nature, but I think people just like to know what the new engine's capabilities are. I think most people agree that Oleg makes a quality product (the best WW2 flight combat sim out there), so I wouldn't rule out anything as far as what SoW might offer. It's the little details that can really make a difference.
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[<George>]

i see an explosion of updates and many time dadicated from athors...
it seems that BOB is going to be out at last...

anyway,great work..

[PanzerAce]

Dang. Had to register finally to ask some questions.

Seeing these boats raised the following questions for me...


1a) Are we going to be getting flyable seaplanes/floatplanes/flying boats?
1b) If so, will there be possible missions rescuing shot down flyers?

2a) Will we get to run anti-shipping patrols/convoy attack missions?
2b) If yes, will the ships take evasive actions to avoid torpedoes, or try to dodge level bombing attacks (Presumably this could be scaled to depend on visibility as well)?

3) Is it possible in the future that we will get to see guided anti shipping weapons like the Germans used on the Fw-200s (and other planes, but that's whats on my mind right now).


Can't wait to see the next update :p

[_ITAF_UgoRipley]

For a moment I heard seagulls...

[PVT.Roger]

Thanks for the update Oleg. And thank you team too.

PR

[tityus]

Thanks for the update.

A couple of questions:

- I hope the stopped propeller when pause is pressed is configurable. It may not be always wanted when taking screen shots and so.

- Will it have a resource to export aircraft data so we can link with other peripherals and apps (as devicelink did, but more comprehensive - simpit intended)? Will it work also online?

- Could one watch a recorded track from another pilot PoV (inside his cockpit)?

From the past preview we saw, it will have moving air masses. so...

- Will it have gauges to provide windspeed, temperature and pressure? (high level precision bombing intended)

thanks
tityus

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by PanzerAce

Dang. Had to register finally to ask some questions.

Seeing these boats raised the following questions for me...


1a) Are we going to be getting flyable seaplanes/floatplanes/flying boats?
1b) If so, will there be possible missions rescuing shot down flyers?

2a) Will we get to run anti-shipping patrols/convoy attack missions?
2b) If yes, will the ships take evasive actions to avoid torpedoes, or try to dodge level bombing attacks (Presumably this could be scaled to depend on visibility as well)?

3) Is it possible in the future that we will get to see guided anti shipping weapons like the Germans used on the Fw-200s (and other planes, but that's whats on my mind right now).


Can't wait to see the next update :p

1a. Currently we have just spitfire with gear-boats that we did just for one purpose - tuning of physics and feel of landing-take off. This isn't MKV like it was in reality... we simply used existing model of our spit.
1b. Probably it will make third parties in the future. In Campaign I planned some feature... After he was shot down, landed in water, pilot waiting in the water for the rescue aircraft and we did for both sides such aircraft. I don't know yet if it will be finally possible to program due to limit of time.

2a. If we are making ships with damage model then this means only one thing - yes.
2b. Can say now just one thing. AI of ships is present It isn't like in Il-2 - movements just by waypoints.

3. It is possible in Il-2 1946 with X-4 rockets. It is the same feature. So when we or third party will be ready to make such things in a new sim, then it will be. The differences in Air to Air and Air to Ground/ship guided rockets is minimal in programming.
The other things is by wire guided or by RC-guided. In programming it is almost the same... but visually... wire and its behavior is to make very hard, including collision of wire in case with own aircraft... So variants with wire we probably will not model... or ar least visals and collisions of wire itself. Of course.. I thing some of third party may do even such things using our base code for this purpose.

[PanzerAce]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

1a. Currently we have just spitfire with gear-boats that we did just for one purpose - tuning of physics and feel of landing-take off. This isn't MKV like it was in reality... we simply used existing model of our spit.
1b. Probably it will make third parties in the future. In Campaign I planned some feature... After he was shot down, landed in water, pilot waiting in the water for the rescue aircraft and we did for both sides such aircraft. I don't know yet if it will be finally possible to program due to limit of time.

2a. If we are making ships with damage model then this means only one thing - yes.
2b. Can say now just one thing. AI of ships is present It isn't like in Il-2 - movements just by waypoints.

3. It is possible in Il-2 1946 with X-4 rockets. It is the same feature. So when we or third party will be ready to make such things in a new sim, then it will be. The differences in Air to Air and Air to Ground/ship guided rockets is minimal in programming.
The other things is by wire guided or by RC-guided. In programming it is almost the same... but visually... wire and its behavior is to make very hard, including collision of wire in case with own aircraft... So variants with wire we probably will not model... or ar least visals and collisions of wire itself. Of course.. I thing some of third party may do even such things using our base code for this purpose.

Cool, thanks for all the info (though I'll have to look up which anti shipping munitions were wire guided, and which were radio guided...)

I guess my only real concern was the issue that many anti shipping weapons were un-powered, but I'm guessing that won't be much of an issue in the long run.

I'm really glad to hear you say that the ships will finally react with more than just AAA. Some guys like to do 8 hour bombing runs...I'd rather do an 8 hour patrol over the atlantic.

[kendo65]

Hi,

Would be interested to know if RAF aircraft will fly in Vics as standard in BOB as they did historically.

This was very difficult / impossible to achieve when modelling early-war RAF in il-2 (though I am aware that il-2 never really attempted to cover this theatre/time.)

So I would hope that there will be a means of choosing formation type in the mission parameters so that RAF can fly vics in 1940 then move to finger four in 1941, etc.

Also, one of my pet peeves with il2: wingmen who abandon formation and charge headlong at the enemy on first sighting! Would like to see an ai pilot spotting a distant enemy formation call out clock and height postion while maintaining discipline and formation. (possible exceptions being some rookies and Polish!)