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Old 10-04-2009, 07:38 PM
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I hope the Devs add a cockpit for the Bf-110. That would be super sweet!!
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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Ive flown the 110 and I wasnt impressed at all. In sim mode its OK if you stick to a particular role (eg bomber attacker) but in every other mode its a dead duck. It handles worse than an IL, and has lesser armaments than it to.
Perhaps the model they have in the game yes... but later on, the 'G' model had a significant upgrade in firepower and payload. Plus the IL-2 is just an ugly plane the Bf 110 simply looks prettier.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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the bf 110 was able to carry 4 250 kg bombs or 4 210mm Wrf Gr rockets.
it was desinged as a long range escort and was also used for ground support, not dogfighting.

the fw-187 may have been an intended replacement but the luftwaffe stuck with the 110, so the 3 prototype187s were used in focke-wulf's private air force defending factories and scored 7 kills

( i got all this info from a book called "the illustrated directory of fighting aircraft of WW2 )
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:32 PM
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Perhaps the model they have in the game yes... but later on, the 'G' model had a significant upgrade in firepower and payload. Plus the IL-2 is just an ugly plane the Bf 110 simply looks prettier.
No doubt there, the IL is an ugly aircraft. However as I said in game the 110 is not as good as the IL.

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:46 PM
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No doubt there, the IL is an ugly aircraft. However as I said in game is not as good as the IL.
I don't know, I think it looks pretty nice from the right angle.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:55 PM
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Well wasn't the Me-110 originally made for a high altitude heavy fighter? But wasn't any good so they converted it to a Ground attack plane?

I fly the 110 from time to time, but only for fun. My Yak-3 can usually tear into it fairly easy.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:57 PM
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No doubt there, the IL is an ugly aircraft. However as I said in game the 110 is not as good as the IL.
Well- the models in the game as of yet are for very different purposes...The 110 is intended to be a heavy fighter (which I like). the IL-2 would be for ground attack (obviously).

Comparing them would be like comparing the late the F-4 Phantom (which was a large and heavy fighter) with the A-10 Warthog (the greatest tank-killer of all time, though only partially proven- unlike the IL-2)
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:00 PM
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Well wasn't the Me-110 originally made for a high altitude heavy fighter? But wasn't any good so they converted it to a Ground attack plane?

I fly the 110 from time to time, but only for fun. My Yak-3 can usually tear into it fairly easy.
It was designed as a heavy fighter- but wasn't very good compared to other lighter fighters.... it was outclassed simply because nobody else flew heavy fighters... It would have been more than a match for the Mosquito though... later it was used as a high altitude fighter (anti bomber roll) which it was very well suited for... other models carried ground attack ordnance and was gor for it too.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:07 PM
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The roles may be different but its how the are utilised in the game, especially online. While the IL is a ground attacker, it can be used as a heavy fighter as many do. Part of the problem is in the fact that there are few "heavy fighters" in the game, making the 110 a bit out of place at times.

Whatever the roles they have, how people actually play online is another matter. Rarely will a 110 survive long in an online match, where people use 109's/Spits/IL's to devastating effect. If the 110 had the G model varient in the game it would make a huge difference in its effectiveness and usage.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:17 PM
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The roles may be different but its how the are utilised in the game, especially online. While the IL is a ground attacker, it can be used as a heavy fighter as many do. Part of the problem is in the fact that there are few "heavy fighters" in the game, making the 110 a bit out of place at times.

Whatever the roles they have, how people actually play online is another matter. Rarely will a 110 survive long in an online match, where people use 109's/Spits/IL's to devastating effect. If the 110 had the G model varient in the game it would make a huge difference in its effectiveness and usage.
I'm pretty good at surviving in a 110... but on the whole you're right. Though I can survive- it takes a lot of work and it's very hard to get kills unless the enemy has larger, slower, or dumber aircraft, or at the very least someone who stumbles into your sights a few times. I don't fly the 110 in dogfight matches, only strike (anti-bomber or escort) or Capture the Airfield (which it is somehow well-suited for). The guns on it are extremely powerful- not because of what they are, but because they are so close together, if one round hits, chances are they all will- in the same spot; they are extremely accurate. I've gotten a few pretty nasty kills with my rear gunner too- which in a 110 is rare.
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