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Old 01-25-2013, 11:05 PM
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It's pure eye candy, but would it be possible to have different default paint schemes for planes in Southwest Pacific Theater? From 1943 on RNZAF, RAAF and USAAF planes all had white tails and (sometimes) white diagonal recognition strips on their planes.

Also, would it be possible to improve the default numbers on the Soviet Aircraft? At least later in the war, it appears that Soviet planes had numbers which looked a lot "prettier" than the numbers in the game, sometimes with elaborate serifs:

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/VVS1/Yak-9D0-1.jpg

http://www.goaviator.com/wp-content/...sociation1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7771/kozhedubfi2.jpg

http://www.allworldwars.com/image/077/IL-2Bg.jpg

http://www.small-wonder.org/Books/Il..._Air_126_2.jpg

Personally, I think that the elongated numbers shown in the first picture are most distinctively Russian, but I'm no expert.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:33 AM
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It's pure eye candy, but would it be possible to have different default paint schemes for planes in Southwest Pacific Theater? From 1943 on RNZAF, RAAF and USAAF planes all had white tails and (sometimes) white diagonal recognition strips on their planes.

Also, would it be possible to improve the default numbers on the Soviet Aircraft? At least later in the war, it appears that Soviet planes had numbers which looked a lot "prettier" than the numbers in the game, sometimes with elaborate serifs:

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/VVS1/Yak-9D0-1.jpg

http://www.goaviator.com/wp-content/...sociation1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7771/kozhedubfi2.jpg

http://www.allworldwars.com/image/077/IL-2Bg.jpg

http://www.small-wonder.org/Books/Il..._Air_126_2.jpg

Personally, I think that the elongated numbers shown in the first picture are most distinctively Russian, but I'm no expert.
Markings and camo is a big bugaboo for me as well. Oleg's response was always that IL-2 was an aircraft simulator and not a marking simulator but I would have loved to see them pay more attention to them from the beginning.

TD has made some great strides but I'd love to see more default skins covering more time and theatre periods. The code is now in place but getting together a cadre of skinners to do all of the work isn't exactly an easy thing to do. It is a lot of work and to do it right it should be coordinated.

I believe it was Cpt Farrel who did all of the German aircraft... top to bottom in one of the recent updates. Which is why all of the German aircraft are now A) Excellent and B) Very consistent. I'd love to see that done again for all other types.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:22 AM
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Markings and camo is a big bugaboo for me as well. Oleg's response was always that IL-2 was an aircraft simulator and not a marking simulator but I would have loved to see them pay more attention to them from the beginning.

TD has made some great strides but I'd love to see more default skins covering more time and theatre periods. The code is now in place but getting together a cadre of skinners to do all of the work isn't exactly an easy thing to do. It is a lot of work and to do it right it should be coordinated.

I believe it was Cpt Farrel who did all of the German aircraft... top to bottom in one of the recent updates. Which is why all of the German aircraft are now A) Excellent and B) Very consistent. I'd love to see that done again for all other types.
I completely agree. There are a number of planes greatly in need of better skins (A6M!!!). If TD is interested in adding better default skins, I am sure the guys at Axis&Allies Paintworks are willing to help.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:45 PM
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Also, would it be possible to improve the default numbers on the Soviet Aircraft?
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Markings and camo is a big bugaboo for me as well. Oleg's response was always that IL-2 was an aircraft simulator and not a marking simulator but I would have loved to see them pay more attention to them from the beginning.

TD has made some great strides but I'd love to see more default skins covering more time and theatre periods.
here very helps - sometimes even with descriptions, manuals, etс for our performances and FM - peoples who love models, even 1c did, does and will do 3d models with help and consultation of these researchers...

for example, work for yak-1/1b, i think it's could be very helpful if DT will do new markings...

have and other works, but, if i'm not mistaken, they are not finished how and "yak-1"...
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:27 PM
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for example, work for yak-1/1b, i think it's could be very helpful if DT will do new markings...

have and other works, but, if i'm not mistaken, they are not finished how and "yak-1"...
New numbers for Soviet aircraft would probably be easier than new default skins for every Allied aircraft in the SW Pacific.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:55 PM
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New numbers for Soviet aircraft would probably be easier than new default skins for every Allied aircraft in the SW Pacific.
Edit: Looking at the default numbers for Soviet aircraft in 4.11, they're not fancy, but they have been improved for most planes. The only plane which still uses the old "Comic Sans Serif" number markings is the I-16.

If there's a complaint, it's that the default numbers are a bit smaller than they were historically on most WW2 era Soviet planes.

But, it seems that there was no standard for Soviet aircraft numbers or squadron markings as there for most other air forces. Numbers were sometimes applied at the factory, but more often applied at the squadron level, sometimes with no sequential order. Furthermore, the "font" used for the numbers, and its size, could vary widely.

The location where numbers was applied could also vary - nose, fuselage or tail were all options. Color was usually white, occasionally rimmed with some other color, or occasionally yellow or red. Blue or green seem to have been rare, although anything might have been possible.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:57 PM
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But, it seems that there was no standard for Soviet aircraft numbers or squadron markings as there for most other air forces. Numbers were sometimes applied at the factory, but more often applied at the squadron level, sometimes with no sequential order. Furthermore, the "font" used for the numbers, and its size, could vary widely.

The location where numbers was applied could also vary - nose, fuselage or tail were all options. Color was usually white, occasionally rimmed with some other color, or occasionally yellow or red. Blue or green seem to have been rare, although anything might have been possible.
if you about real life, yes, although i'm not specialist in this question, apparently standards are often not respected, we even have a bad joke - "там где заканчивается порядок - начинается военная авиация" - ie in VVS no order...

so, it's can be not easy...

and just for fun, naive soviet pin-up...
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:20 PM
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Edit: Looking at the default numbers for Soviet aircraft in 4.11, they're not fancy, but they have been improved for most planes. The only plane which still uses the old "Comic Sans Serif" number markings is the I-16.

If there's a complaint, it's that the default numbers are a bit smaller than they were historically on most WW2 era Soviet planes.

But, it seems that there was no standard for Soviet aircraft numbers or squadron markings as there for most other air forces. Numbers were sometimes applied at the factory, but more often applied at the squadron level, sometimes with no sequential order. Furthermore, the "font" used for the numbers, and its size, could vary widely.

The location where numbers was applied could also vary - nose, fuselage or tail were all options. Color was usually white, occasionally rimmed with some other color, or occasionally yellow or red. Blue or green seem to have been rare, although anything might have been possible.
More than the I-16... they show up on a bunch of aircraft including early Yaks. The size correction might not be a possibility as you'll get unpleasant stretching.. but the font itself could be done more historically.
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