Walk Around And Flight In Real P-38

[secretone]

This man died following his dreams. However the film he created is so good that it seems worth sharing with the community...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nddCJbcdI

[DK-nme]

Dead? When did he die and how?

[MaxGunz]

http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/183014-1.html

[Aviar]

NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20594

AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT REPORT


Accident occurred JUN-06-97 at TILLAMOOK, OR
Aircraft: Lockheed P-38L, registration: N7973
Injuries: 1 Fatal.


Probable Cause

Failure of the pilot to maintain minimum control speed (VMC), after loss of power in one engine, which resulted in a loss of aircraft control and collision with terrain. Related factors were: the pilot's improper fuel management and failure to change the fuel selector position before a fuel tank had emptied, which led to fuel starvation and loss of power in one engine; and the pilot's lack of familiarity with the aircraft, relative to single-engine minimum airspeeds.


Aviar

[secretone]

Jeffrey Ethell made a series of warbird videos, available on youtube, which I find absolutely fascinating because the extent of my warbird experience consists of running Mr. Maddox's software on a laptop.

[MaxGunz]

IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.

When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.

Originally Posted by MaxGunz

IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.

When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.

Having actually talked to Steve Hinton about flying various warbirds the sense I got was when he said a particular warbird was "easy" (or "difficult") he meant for the average pilot who would be qualified to *start* flying it. Most of the pilots I know (including myself - lol) don't think any airplane they have flown is really particularly difficult for themselves (though they might think it would be for someone else) just varying in challenge. So that just means some airplanes need to be flown and others are easy. If Steve were talking about difficulty in terms of his skill practically no one but he would be able to fly these crates ... certainly not many of the tens of thousands of ~20 year old advanced trainee graduates we were kicking out in the early forties.

Just my thoughts.

[MaxGunz]

So when Gene Gamer who has never flown a plane before and doesn't bother with little things like trim says the FM is wrong because Steve Hinton or Jeff Ethell says the real plane is very stable while Gene finds the sim version isn't for him, he's right?

BTW, those 20 year olds (and many younger than that) did go from GA to trainer to fighter. Got to get your time in tail draggers on that path nowadays, don't you? Miss out on training time and who knows what levers you forget to switch?

[wheelsup_cavu]

Originally Posted by MaxGunz

IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.

When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.

Originally Posted by zipper

Having actually talked to Steve Hinton about flying various warbirds the sense I got was when he said a particular warbird was "easy" (or "difficult") he meant for the average pilot who would be qualified to *start* flying it. Most of the pilots I know (including myself - lol) don't think any airplane they have flown is really particularly difficult for themselves (though they might think it would be for someone else) just varying in challenge. So that just means some airplanes need to be flown and others are easy. If Steve were talking about difficulty in terms of his skill practically no one but he would be able to fly these crates ... certainly not many of the tens of thousands of ~20 year old advanced trainee graduates we were kicking out in the early forties.

Just my thoughts.

I can't say I know him personally but I have had a few words with Steve in passing while doing volunteer work at Planes of Fame. Where did you meet him?

Originally Posted by secretone

This man died following his dreams. However the film he created is so good that it seems worth sharing with the community...

Seen it before but well worth another watch.


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