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[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

This is great, here was me thinking it was the developers fault that MP sounds don't work, the AI crashes into the ground, radio commands don't work, buildings pop up, the qmb is worse than il2 etc etc and it turns out it was my computer all along!

Personally I think people using the offensive term 'whiners' when talking about paying customers should get the same penalty as people using other offensive language here.

The obvious as day difference is that you're mostly talking about features and he's mostly talking about stability, entirely different things.

You either missed it or try to make it look like he's referring to features in order to construct a strawman argument, but since i like giving people the benefit of doubt i'll just assume you missed the difference



There's a ton of things i'd like to see changed or improved but to be honest the broken record approach is way past its usefulness: nobody is paying attention to it anymore because it's repetitive and boring, it doesn't result in anything getting fixed anytime faster and it just gets everyone bored, even the contributing community members who spend their time on improving the gameplay experience of others by posting guides, FAQs, workarounds and 3rd party content (skins, campaigns, etc).

All this talk about alienating paying customers and not a single word about a few very vocal customers alienating unpaid volunteers (other customers), discouraging them from trying to help through sheer volumes of repetitive boredom...i guess this aspect of it all goes over most people's heads because they think they deserve the attention no matter what.

Personally speaking, i've decided i'll be spending my weekends going to the beach instead of trying to guide a flock of impatient, hold-my-hand-please members of the community through every bit of manageable trouble i've managed to find a solution for and it reflects in my posting frequency. Let them use the forum search function or, god forbid, experiment on their own a bit, i'm off swimming.

If you think this place is dead due to lack of frequent developer feedback, then think again. When the majority of contributing community members are tired of these antics and decide to do something more productive with their time or keep their findings to themselves and enjoy the game, instead of spending their time responding to repetitive posts for the umpteenth time, then is when this place will really be dead.

There won't be any people helping you with tweaking your PC and game settings, there won't be any people making missions, campaigns and skins for you to enjoy, there won't be any people working on scripts to be used on servers but then again it will be ok because there won't be any people hosting servers to begin with and through a twist of sweet irony, it will be the fault of those who complain the loudest in the least useful manner (there are useful complaints and there are useless one, i prefer the useful kind).

When that time comes, you guys will really depend on Luthier dropping you a bone once every couple of months because the rest of us will be too busy doing other things to argue with you here, including flying a sim that works fine for us instead of spending our time trying to make it work for you too

Usually, what gets better results is:

1) Submit a proper bug report without snide remarks, just the logs/error messages/description/how to reproduce it.

2) Post reminders/questions/updates/workarounds on the relevant thread only.

3) Don't repeat the same thing all over the place in irrelevant threads, it annoys people and makes them prone to ignore you with great pleasure and go swimming instead of trying to help you out

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by SYN_Jed

Must remember the next time one of my customers comes in to make a legitimate complaint to just call em a whiner.....anyway....back to the real world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1lfSzgcAw

You gotta admit whining does have a nice ring to it.

Back to the real world... face to face it would be rare to call someone a whiner. Might get your nose broke.. LOL

On forums people hide behind their anonymous id, which shouldn't be license to say things they would not say to you face to face. Alas, that is the way of it.

The funny part is... you can't complain about people calling you a whiner without whining.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

looks like you'd be out of a hobby too then carguy

No problem. It`s about the game, not about me. I bought this game too you know.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

The funny part is... you can't complain about people calling you a whiner without whining.

True lol.

How about this:

Profanilty=BAN
Calling someone a whiner etc=BAN
Calling someone a fanboi etc=BAN

Both sides are just as abusive to each other, although why there are even 'sides' here is downright weird.

[flyingblind]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

This is great, here was me thinking it was the developers fault that MP sounds don't work, the AI crashes into the ground, radio commands don't work, buildings pop up, the qmb is worse than il2 etc etc and it turns out it was my computer all along!

Personally I think people using the offensive term 'whiners' when talking about paying customers should get the same penalty as people using other offensive language here.

I think the post is about performance rather that bugs. You are talking about bugs that will need to be fixed by the developers working on the code. Performance is how well your system runs the game as it stands with reference to fps, stutters and perhaps some of the artifacts.

There may still be some optimization to do that will improve performance across the board but the fact is some people cannot get satisfactory performance when their system specs suggest they should. No one has provided an answer why that should be.

I am lucky to be happy enough with the performance given my specs. The game runs with everything maxed at ave 50fps over water, 30 to 40fps over land dropping to low, mid 20s when attacking bombers over London. Minimal stuttering.

My choice of componants for my upgrade were made on the following basis.

1. My budget was no more than £500.

2. I have always prefered AMD over Intel on a purely subjective basis and the Phenome 965 fitted into my budget.

3. The motherboard got good reviews and seemed well designed and I liked the fact it has a nVidia chipset.

4. I got an nVidia graphics card as the developers have always said nVidia were willing to have a dialogue whereas ATI were not. I also got an Asus card to match the Asus board. I perhaps wish I had got a card with more Vram.

5. I needed DDR3 ram and I only got 4Gb of ram to keep within budget but again I made the mistake of getting 2 x 2Gb whereas I should have got 1 x 4Gb so now I can only upgrade with 2 more 2 x 2Gb or 2 x 4Gb rather than being able to get another 1 x 4Gb.

6. All the componants are designed to be overclocked but I haven't done so yet due to rather weak cooling.

The whole lot including VAT etc came in at £480.

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

5. I needed DDR3 ram and I only got 4Gb of ram to keep within budget but again I made the mistake of getting 2 x 2Gb whereas I should have got 1 x 4Gb so now I can only upgrade with 2 more 2 x 2Gb or 2 x 4Gb rather than being able to get another 1 x 4Gb.

Unless you were getting 2x4gb sticks from the get go, you should be happy you got 2x2gb. 1x4gb single stick wouldn't do you much good. 8gb is plenty man.

Anyway, I'm glad to see NOTHING have changed on this forum. I may install again in a year or two. Hepp!

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

It's worth a shot...although for some reason with the 11.5 drivers I get huge artifacts with buildings on unlimited. But there are some other things I'm going to try before spitting my dummy out. (Kidding.)

Well, egads.

Turns out the artifacts with buildings set to unlimited and stutter I was getting was not video related, or at least it doesn't seem to be the case.

I downclocked from 4.5ghz to 4.2ghz and voila! Artifacts gone and stutter is pretty much gone too.* It may sound strange, but my vcore (1.32v) might not have been quite enough juice at 4.5ghz.
I'm not 100% sure if it really is the case, but what else can it be, with everything else the same?
(Temps were okay at 4.5ghz, so heat was not the issue.)

*Except for the first 30 seconds or so over London.

[flyingblind]

The board will take just one ram module in first slot (single channel) and then a second module can be installed but then both the remaining slots must be populated. To upgrade I can only increase to 8 or 12Mb whereas if I had put the single 4Mb in I could upgrade to 8 and then to 12 or 16Mb, or so I believe. I was thinking if I wanted to install a ram drive although some are saying they don't work so well.

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

There are some users of BOB COD that are having very good results, and there are the whiners that won't take the time to review the system stats of those who are getting good results.

Many of the videos I've seen indicate a very competent COD, and it is getting better with each patch.

If your system specs don't square up to the specs of people getting good performance you might want to make some inquiries.

I am very sure the people having good results will be glad to share how they achieved their competent installs of COD.

If your system specs don't meet up to what is working you should think about your hardware instead of whining about something that may never be workable.

But of course! You don't have to mention that do you? Everyone knows this I am sure.

It's a well documented fact that a few people are going to have to mow a few more lawns this summer. Wash a few more loads of laundry or whatever you have to do to earn some decent scratch to beef up your specs to get decent results.

This is obvious isn't it?

[ParaB]

On my system (core-i5 2500k @4Ghz, 8 Gig RAM, GTX470, Win 7 64 bit) CoD runs well. Not perfect, but OK. FSAA still seems to be limited to 2x and sometimes I do still get micro-stutters or slow-downs, but from a technical PVO I'm actually quite happy with CoD.

My problems with CoD stem from other issues.