the quality of this forum...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Phazon

Sternjaeger tell us what we are supposed to talk about. We can't discuss our MP experiences because it doesn't work properly. We can't discuss our SP experiences because there is no real SP to talk about. Not everyone wants to get into the FMB or make movies.

The only thing left to discuss is bugs and speculation as to what on earth is going on since we have heard nothing for 18 days. The only person to blame is 1C for not keeping us informed as to when we'll get our sim game.

I agree, and as a customer I feel ripped off too, but a few things are obvious:

1) we won't get our money back
2) there's nothing on par with this sim, buggy as it is, at the moment.
3) the game will get better, like other sims did, with a suffering start and an improving quality.

it's not the whining per se, it's the elaborated stuff like "here what tracers look like, I've seen them in Pearl Harbor" or "this game is XXXX" and then you look at the user's rig and realise he has a good one for IL-2, but not for CoD.

And yes, I'm sure that if there was more feedback and interaction from Luthier & Co. there would be way less whining, but guys, stop for a second and look at the potential of the game you have installed.. it's infinitely superior to ANY simulation out there, this is a fact. Improvements will come with better rigs and patches, I think we're just at the troubled dawn of a superb simulation, and that's probably what Luthier is worried about: it's not the petty stuff, it's the grand scheme. Picking up on Oleg's role must have been a HUGE challenge, and yes, most of us think he's making a HUGE mistake in not delivering serious, regular updates, but all we can do is wait and hope they'll polish what I look at as a rough diamond.

Originally Posted by BP_Tailspin

And the root cause of this is ?

The root cause is the users and the lack of updates. I always looked at ww2 sims as a niche market, and I'm glad that there actually are a lot of people that find it fascinating. I also appreciate that not all of us are literate on the subject, both under a historical an technical point of view, so why going with all the technical/historical speculation, based mostly on one's assumption?! Reading that day after day is really really annoying..

Some people just have nothing positive to say …

agreed, so instead of whining on something that has been flagged already, they can search the forum for similar threads, read and STFU..

Your not complaining are you … I think the moderators do an excellent job.

opinions man, it's yours vs mine, I think that mods are doing a random job, it's like they check only every now and then, give a general rather gross sweep (without following the forum rules themselves: before ANY banning they should send a warning) and go back to whatever they're doing..

“I'm only expressing my personal view” as are others, but there views are different than yours, that’s all …

Come on Sternjaeger …

I take views and respect everybody's, as long as they're literate and make sense. I reckon there should be an option to filter posts according to forum members' age..

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I reckon there should be an option to filter posts according to forum members' age..

You kidding? The majority of those boohoo-my-game-is-broken moaners are mid 20s to mid 50s losers who don`t know anything else to enjoy than whats going on on their monitor.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by carguy_

You kidding? The majority of those boohoo-my-game-is-broken moaners are mid 20s to mid 50s losers who don`t know anything else to enjoy than whats going on on their monitor.

What a loser!

Originally Posted by carguy_

You kidding? The majority of those boohoo-my-game-is-broken moaners are mid 20s to mid 50s losers who don`t know anything else to enjoy than whats going on on their monitor.

You are such a massive bell

[David198502]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Your such a massive bell, why do you always have to insult people

probably because of the same reason why he has to have a fancy sports car.

[White Owl]

Irrationally hating IL-2: Dover has become a religion for some. To a lesser extent, irrationally loving the game is also a religion for a few here. (Everybody has at least one religion, whether they realize it or not.) When you're trying to have a conversation with somebody who zealously practices a religion opposed to your own point of view, the big problem is the zealot is incapable of stepping back and reconsidering his own point of view. He genuinely believes he is being perfectly reasonable in aggressive proselytizing, and it's for your own good. The only solution is to not engage the zealots and look around for somebody more open minded to talk to. They can be harder to find, but they're out there.

Also, there's a subtle difference between a troll and an attention... word-that-means-prostitute. Learn to differentiate, and resist the impulse to give either of them what they crave. Getting angry at them serves no useful purpose. Ignore and move on.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by carguy_

You kidding? The majority of those boohoo-my-game-is-broken moaners are mid 20s to mid 50s losers who don`t know anything else to enjoy than whats going on on their monitor.

Tool

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by carguy_

You kidding? The majority of those boohoo-my-game-is-broken moaners are mid 20s to mid 50s losers who don`t know anything else to enjoy than whats going on on their monitor.

i'm starting to like this guy, he's always good for a laugh

[nearmiss]

Do any of you remember the Ray Ban Jockey on Ubizoo?

This guy drove us all nuts, yet everyone missed him when he split.

What makes community?

It's not about all the competent, intelligent well thought out responses is it?

It's about everyone being different, some smart mouths, some with slow wit, some with quick wit, some with no wits, etc.

This is really an excellent forums, because we have voices speaking up from all over the world. We may not all agree, but basically we do get along. I love it we can speak with other members from all over the world, and share things with some common interest.

Yes, I realize it's English language. I'm sure there are some that would prefer their native language, but there are always forums in native languages all over the web.

This is a international forums, where people from all over the world that do comprehend English can talk and share.

[nearmiss]

LOL

You guys crack me up

This forums have nothing to do with the BOB COD, except to be a place to talk about it.

Now the US release is out, afaik. Maybe things will change, maybe not.

Everyone complained about Ubisoft forums, for years now.
The parents complain about the profanity.
Everyone wants his "thing" fixed.
Some members want developers to keep open discussion, but others only want to rag on them.

Where did civil discussion go? It melted into oblivion?

Too many people hang out on this forums because they really are anxious about their favorite air combat sim. Most of us understand that, but the more they hang out the more discussion degrades to worthless banter.

There are those type of posters that we all know from real life that just complain and whine, walk around with a half empty glass. No way we can ferret out the winners from the losers, except over time we do form our opinions of them.

Not picking on any person with this posting, because everyone is entitled to say something as long as they try to stay within the rules of this forums. The rules were documented to provide some guide to facilitating civil discussions among members. That is all they are there for.

Blaming the forums is stupid. It's about the members of the forums that make them what they are, nothing more nothing less.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft0DnuRKtF8