Is this the New Winston Churchill?

[ATAG_Doc]

The union was born from all the ashes of the wars in Europe that have happened forever and ever.

Mutual assured economic destruction.

Allow tiny states within a huge continent to rule themselves with no natural border other than some imaginary line. Have completely different cultures, languages, races, history, currency, leaders and a splash of animosity for past history and a dash of nationalism and you have a tinderbox.

But try to bond them economically, have a common currency, remove borders and allow restricted movement of people in hope the experiment leads to the loss of all these deep seated identities over several generations.

Finally have one union with leaders for all the people and it might me manageable.

Only time will tell.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

The perspective from Britain is that the Euro was a shallow and political attempt to unite Europe under German leadership. Angela Merkel has dictated to Greece who should be their leader.

Thank the Lord that we British have NOT joined the Euro.

The Euro is a sinking ship. We British are experts as regards sinking ships. Titanic anyone

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

And you actually believe that?

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

And you actually believe that?

If you drink plenty of History Lite with a few Current Affairs Lite chasers and squint a bit then anything is believable.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

If you drink plenty of History Lite with a few Current Affairs Lite chasers and squint a bit then anything is believable.

yeah, we have those

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

If you drink plenty of History Lite with a few Current Affairs Lite chasers and squint a bit then anything is believable.

like the euro surviving in its present form

[WTE_Galway]

If I follow the logic here ...

Not only is the UK right to avoid the Euro ...

But Britain also should split off the North, especially Sunderland/Sheffield/Newcastle etc , and give them their own currency which can then be devalued ??

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

But try to bond them economically, have a common currency, remove borders and allow restricted movement of people in hope the experiment leads to the loss of all these deep seated identities over several generations.

Lose identity?
That's something adorable?

*pukes*

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

Lose identity?
That's something adorable?

*pukes*

As if. I am a Düsseldorfer. Can't say Cologne ever bothered to culture up and share that identity. Oddly enough, being in one country did not change much of that.

That threat of loss of identity is pure fear mongering.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

That threat of loss of identity is pure fear mongering.

But it works.

Apparently.

[Kupsised]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

As if. I am a Düsseldorfer. Can't say Cologne ever bothered to culture up and share that identity. Oddly enough, being in one country did not change much of that.

That threat of loss of identity is pure fear mongering.

Ironically it seems to come from us Brits quite a lot as well. I would like to pose any British person the question, that under the United Kingdom, with our common currency, the Pound, have the Scottish, Welsh and English lost their identity?

Given that Scottish nationalist parties rule in Scotland and Welsh nationalist parties are very popular in Wales, I'd say not. Whilst adopting a British nationality, we haven't abandoned our English, Welsh or Scottish ones. Why can't it be the same for Europe?

(NOTE: I intentionally left out Northern Ireland since 'Northern Irish' identity is somewhat of a sensitive issue.)