REALLY hard to see...

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by Buggins

Turn off the HUD in realistic. That's the best way. Still challenging but you have padlock view.

yes but you nerf yourself in multi then cause other deuchs have the arrows on

[ontheborderland]

I'm a total noob to this game, just got it yesterday. But already I find sim mode the best by far. I usually don't have a problem finding enemies (using the map to get the general location helps), and the kills are much more rewarding. I also think it's far more immersive as you don't have arrows and triangles all over the screen.

[loopdreams]

I've been doing a lot of the campaign in realistic with minimal HUD. I find this to be the best compromise. I got through the earlier missions in sim but finding ground targets can be a complete joke, I just don't have that kind of patience. Props to anyone who does do it all in sim though.

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

I've been doing a lot of the campaign in realistic with minimal HUD. I find this to be the best compromise. I got through the earlier missions in sim but finding ground targets can be a complete joke, I just don't have that kind of patience. Props to anyone who does do it all in sim though.

To find ground target I fly very low and scan the area. Admittedly I have not been successful to identify all the ground targets in Stalingrad, but a pilot's life was much tougher in WWII than in the modern days (and even now pilots sometimes shoot their own guys or wedding parties).

I really don't like having target markers in a WWII sim, it kills my immersion.

[loopdreams]

True but I've done a fair bit of flying and it's a damn site easier to see cars on the ground if you're flying an actual, real plane at 3,000ft than it is to see them in this even when you're flying at 300ft. Eyes have a very much higher resolution than 720p and even cramped cockpits offer a wider field of vision than a telly. It's like flying a plane, whilst peering through a letterbox and wearing glasses smeared with butter. As detailed as the ground is in this sim it's nothing like the view from a plane in terms of readily identifiable landmarks with which to orient yourself.

Also with minimal HUD you don't get the target markers all over the place but you do get to use padlock view. I don't find it destroys immersion but merely compensates for some of the inherent deficiencies of playing on a screen.

[elneilios]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

True but I've done a fair bit of flying and it's a damn site easier to see cars on the ground if you're flying an actual, real plane at 3,000ft than it is to see them in this even when you're flying at 300ft. Eyes have a very much higher resolution than 720p and even cramped cockpits offer a wider field of vision than a telly. It's like flying a plane, whilst peering through a letterbox and wearing glasses smeared with butter. As detailed as the ground is in this sim it's nothing like the view from a plane in terms of readily identifiable landmarks with which to orient yourself.

Also with minimal HUD you don't get the target markers all over the place but you do get to use padlock view. I don't find it destroys immersion but merely compensates for some of the inherent deficiencies of playing on a screen.

Interesting idea.... but how do you know what you have targetted without the icons? Seems it could be a bit random as to what you have padlocked? I suppose its just a case of remembering what you last aimed at when pressing the target button? But it could still get confusing if you pressed cycle target, you wouldn't really know what your locking your view on to.

[loopdreams]

Originally Posted by elneilios

Interesting idea.... but how do you know what you have targetted without the icons? Seems it could be a bit random as to what you have padlocked? I suppose its just a case of remembering what you last aimed at when pressing the target button? But it could still get confusing if you pressed cycle target, you wouldn't really know what your locking your view on to.

Most of the time it's not too bad, just hold down the target button a bit longer at it will select your primary objective, if you're trying to target an attacker then hold down the padlock view button and keep pressing the target button until you get the right one. Overall though if you just approach it as though you're playing sim but with the extra help there when you need it then it's a good compromise. No good if you're going after the achievement for getting through the game in sim of course, and no use in multiplayer either where disabling the HUD is only putting yourself at an unfair disadvantage.

[cydno]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

True but I've done a fair bit of flying and it's a damn site easier to see cars on the ground if you're flying an actual, real plane at 3,000ft than it is to see them in this even when you're flying at 300ft. Eyes have a very much higher resolution than 720p and even cramped cockpits offer a wider field of vision than a telly. It's like flying a plane, whilst peering through a letterbox and wearing glasses smeared with butter. As detailed as the ground is in this sim it's nothing like the view from a plane in terms of readily identifiable landmarks with which to orient yourself.

Also with minimal HUD you don't get the target markers all over the place but you do get to use padlock view. I don't find it destroys immersion but merely compensates for some of the inherent deficiencies of playing on a screen.

Completely Agreed!

I only play on sim mode (and finished the campaign though) but I do not hesitate to use the virtual cockpit and the zoom as it compensates the poor visibility that we have in the game.
the immersion is still there anyway and it is really great when you shoot an enemy plane using the virtual cockpit and the zoom... it reminds me all of those WWII TV documentaries.

Also, here is how I managed to spot ground targets.... from pretty far try to line up with the targets pretty low, use the virtual cockpit and zoom in... it is pretty efficient . I managed to spot two vehicles in the street of stalingrad (which is, I must say, a real challenge!).

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by cydno

Completely Agreed!

I only play on sim mode (and finished the campaign though) but I do not hesitate to use the virtual cockpit and the zoom as it compensates the poor visibility that we have in the game.
the immersion is still there anyway and it is really great when you shoot an enemy plane using the virtual cockpit and the zoom... it reminds me all of those WWII TV documentaries.

Also, here is how I managed to spot ground targets.... from pretty far try to line up with the targets pretty low, use the virtual cockpit and zoom in... it is pretty efficient . I managed to spot two vehicles in the street of stalingrad (which is, I must say, a real challenge!).

Virtual cockpit and zoom - sure as hell. I just don't like the markers, apart from that I appreciate all help that the game offers.