IL2 Birds of Prey: Hints, Tips, and FAQ's Thread

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by Rittmeister86

I know this is an ongoing problem for many, but has anyone out there actually landed on sim mode?

While I still suck score wise on sim mode I at least managed to pull off a decent landing without flipping over. There are speculations that pulling the throttle back completely acts as wheel brakes. I always pull back the stick when I'm below take off speed, maybe that helps to reduce the chance, but sometimes I also flip over.

[Rittmeister86]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

While I still suck score wise on sim mode I at least managed to pull off a decent landing without flipping over. There are speculations that pulling the throttle back completely acts as wheel brakes. I always pull back the stick when I'm below take off speed, maybe that helps to reduce the chance, but sometimes I also flip over.

Thanks for the input.

I know that there are no wheel brakes on the Ace Edge. I have run several tests to confirm this. I also keep the yoke back while rolling out, but it seems I always flip.

[Flanker15]

I had a go at landing without use of brakes with the control pad, it is definatly possible.
As mentioned above: pull back on the stick to stop flipping over and to slow down faster. A planes engine is heavy and the tail is light, combined with the layout of the wheels on most WW2 planes the plane is inclined to tilt forward when slowing down.
Make sure you set the flaps to landing aswell.

[Yossarian]

Originally Posted by Rittmeister86

Thanks for the input.

I know that there are no wheel brakes on the Ace Edge. I have run several tests to confirm this. I also keep the yoke back while rolling out, but it seems I always flip.

That's what is doing it. I can land fine in sim mode as long as I don't apply any elevator to get the tail down and keep the nose high to help to slow down. It does not seem to matter how low your speed is, if you pull back on the stick, it crashes. Every single time I do that it then tumbles and crashes, if I leave the elevator alone after landing and just use the brakes then it is fine.

That mode where you have to capture the airbases is going to be impossible for the flightstick crew in sim mode, you will either crash or roll off the end of the runway because you can't brake.

[Wehrwulf]

Perhaps the fields will be more forgiving in multiplayer...I seem to land fine...but then keep on rolling into the blue yonder (or green, depends if trees are there) with no brake. I guess that's the trouble with bringing flight sims to consoles is that there's just not enough buttons in enough convenient places on a controller for all the features neccessary in flight.

[thundermuffin]

I'm going to avoid things like come in straight with about 20% throttle yadda yadda yadda. I hope you guys know all of that (not trying to sound snobbish).

1. Make sure your flaps are set to landing (X button on 360)
----They will only set that way when your landing gear is fully lowered.
2. When touching down pull all the way back on the throttle stick (Right Stick) and all the way back with the Left Stick so your nose is pointing as high as possible with the wheels touching.
---Pulling back on the throttle acts as a wheel break.

At around 50 KM/h your plane will try and flip. The best way to avoid this is by making sure you are level and rolling straight and having both sticks pulled back. Make sure to remember that speed when trying to turn the aircraft around as it will still try and flip.

For turning the aircraft around on the ground use nothing but rudder (Right Stick) and have a constant battle with throttle percentage. You don't want to go above 30% but you don't want to stay at 30% for very long as you will start to pick up a lot more speed the necessary and will probably lose control. I tend to bring it up to 30%, start to move and turn, then quickly bring it back down and even apply break if necessary.

If you have any more questions about this or additions, just say.

[trk29]

Thanks for the detail.

[Yossarian]

Originally Posted by thundermuffin

At around 50 KM/h your plane will try and flip. The best way to avoid this is by making sure you are level and rolling straight and having both sticks pulled back.

No it's the pulling back on the stick that makes it tumble and crash, just leave it alone and it will not. I've tried it loads of times, back pressure on stick = crash, no back pressure on stick = no crash.

[dald101]

Ok chaps, just wondering if anybody can help out a complete novice...

When it comes to throttle managment or rudder control, i'm pretty much clueless

Can anybody can offer any advice on how to manage either, especially in regards to dogfighting?

I would also be grateful for any tips regarding control of either in other situations, such as strafing, diving, etc.

Many thanks in advance

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by dald101

Ok chaps, just wondering if anybody can help out a complete novice...

When it comes to throttle managment or rudder control, i'm pretty much clueless

Can anybody can offer any advice on how to manage either, especially in regards to dogfighting?

I would also be grateful for any tips regarding control of either in other situations, such as strafing, diving, etc.

Many thanks in advance

Rudder:
Rudder helps a lot if you wind up in a turning fight. Turning the rudder in the direction on your turn will help you turn harder.

Speed:
When your in a dogfight you will need to concentrate on your speed in response to your enemy's speed. Make sure to slow down before you approach so you don't overshoot and have him on your six. And if you see him try to barrel roll or spin around you, slow down and try to get the edge on him by barrel rolling as well sometimes. This is called Rolling Scissors.
If you wind up doing a loop, slowing down and give you the edge sometimes.
But most importantly, just try to do your best to make sure you keep him in front of you.

If you want anything more specific just ask.