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Old 07-27-2009, 05:09 PM
Vilk Vilk is offline
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It isn't the reverse? Ie Inquisitor refuse to resurrect Demons but you can with your resurrect spell? I don't remember well.

About Karador battle my last try took me many attempt before to succeed but it's weird I end in using an overall strategy close to my previous game.

Joined bellow a funny snapshot after few rounds. Notice where are the Death Knight, lead there by a common use of Ice Thorn and very mobile target with Red Dragon.
The second snaphot is some round later, still all army but Red Dragons at start place and Death Knights still wandering around the place.

This attempt had been a nightmare until I decided three things:
  • Use Red Dragon as a very mobile target.
  • Take care to have a unit with the higher initiative that cannot be hypnotized (Red Dragon instead of royal snake).
  • Take care to always cancel a Karador negative spell on my units and keep my High Magic opportunities more for that.

Other more standard points was:
  • Drayd with summoned Thorn to avoid Necro call.
  • Reduce enemy stack before killing some.
  • Use Ice Thorns to slow down enemy stacks.
  • Use slow to control some stacks dangerous for my target.
  • When killing a stack take care of initiative to be sure to have right after the death a Thorn ready to summon Thorn or a unit to walk apon the dead stack.
  • Use few targets to reduce Necromancer stacks.
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:24 PM
DGDobrev DGDobrev is offline
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The demons can be ressed by the resurrection spell. Still, that was a battle I didn't plan on winning without losses, although for a little while it looked that it can be done. The only thing that stopped me was the fact that karador used necro call on my fallen stack of priests (they were supposed to be a scapegoat and die) just before I had to get a turn and ress them with the inquisitors (I had no mana for ress lvl 1 spell at that time).

Besides, I already planned to go on and replace some of the armies in that line-up with fairies, and since I had to return to the elven lands through the book and stack up on more appropriate troops.

With any luck, and with the setup I proposed, Karador can be beaten without a loss, provided you're patient. I may not have lost 400+ priests if I replayed the battle, but since those priests were expendable, and I did not plan on beating the game without losses, I let them die.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:58 AM
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You can resurrect a fully dead stack? I'm not sully sure but I don't think so.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:23 AM
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I started with copying the dryads and making both dryads summon thorns, then your starting area is jammed up and the bone dragon can't attack you initially, and instead they kill the walls.

Also, all the undead units get jammed up and fire rain can kill quite a lot. It was very easy battle with my mage, I suspect it would be more difficult as a paladin though.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:04 AM
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It was in impossible mode? The problem with this approach are the two stacks of Necromancers, they'll do heavy mass damages to your troops, that's why I was using Red Dragon they make the whole difference. Also the bones dragon are the weaker stack and not really a problem.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:06 AM
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Has any paladin beat korador with no losses on impossible/would be intresting to see how
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:48 AM
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I gave you the tactic, iregev

The lineup I used is enough to beat him on impossible without losses, provided you ress (or use time back when their numbers dwindle too much) your scapegoat priests as soon as they die, so that Karador doesn't ress them as undead, in which case they will count as lost.

Also, in my eyes, priests are better than archers for that battle, because they do extra damage to undead, which dramatically improves their damage, which is very important on higher difficulties.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:22 AM
iregev iregev is offline
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Yes you did DGDobrev and more but:
I want to finish impossible with no losses on all 3 classes but struggling with the paladin (this my 2nd rerun in paladin in that battle and no avail - either no artifacts no skills or just pure strategy)
Funny how the mage can finish this battle in 2 minutes with red dragons (tripple armagedon and Necro call is too easy)
I was wondering if you have a same game from your fight against him - would love to see what skills you took and what equipement you have

The thing is I don;t have a problem with any other fight in the game - this one is a tough pickle for me
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:46 PM
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Hmm, sadly, I don't. I have the REALLY bad habbit of saving everything onto 1 or 2 save game slots (+ the extra quicksaves), which are pretty close to the finish of the game, maybe just after I used the tactics treatise exploit I was talking about in the other threads and hit lvl 31. If that will suffice, I can attach it.

EDIT: Or was it just before I did the treatise bug... I'm not sure

EDIT 2: Actually, I can save you the trouble of loading a save game. It was just before I used the treatise bug and finished the game. This is how my char looked like at that point:
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:15 AM
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Korador died last night after 8 turns of chaging blows and 31 turns of resurction to no losses.....
Priests, Inquistor, horseman and archmage - all with +2 morale from the item + sword of light (insane Vs undead) + sword that adds 30% to attack Vs undead
The 5th unit was sprites which was probably wrong match for the battle - knights would have been better.

DGDobrev - Priests are so great for this battle !!! especially with morale, even though he cast fear on them they just shot the skellies and spiders down. + 2 morale is huge.

Demonis - here I come....
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