oleg, you better hurry, RoF is releasing a ww-2 sim next

[Arklight]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Those aircraft take a team of workers ages to make. $25 dollars is reasonable I think. Even on my modest income. Don't forget though, AI versions of new aircraft are confirmed as being FREE. You only pay if you want them as flyable. That makes it fair to those who wish to purchase, and to those who don't but want to stay current.

Per a post made by Neoqb today, the Albatros and Nieuport 28 will be free, and the Nieuport 17 will cost $7.62 next week.

The aircraft are VERY high quality, and I would not take issue with paying more for them. IMO, their Nieuport 17 at about $8 is a steal. I would have paid much more for that aircraft, as well as the Albatros and Nieuport 28. I had actually planned on spending about $15-$20 per aircraft but would not have minded paying more.

I know I am probalby in the miniority with regards to what I am willing to spend, but when I look back at how much I have spent on FS9 and FSX (yes, very different products), this pales in comparison.....and I am having more fun with RoF.

[ElAurens]

neoqb's flight modeling of the new aircraft is very good indeed.

The Neiuport 28 has really well done gyroscopic precession, as it should, and the modeling of the sequential ignition cut off for "throttling" the engine is well realized.

The DVa is very smooth, and easy to fight with. In fact I prefer it to the early model (Mercedes powered) DVII we currently have.

The SPAD is still the "uber" plane of the sim so far, but the upcoming SEVa will steal some of it's thunder. The Pfalz D3 is an unknown quantity to me, other than what it looks like. We shall see...

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

neoqb's flight modeling of the new aircraft is very good indeed.

The Neiuport 28 has really well done gyroscopic precession, as it should, and the modeling of the sequential ignition cut off for "throttling" the engine is well realized.

The DVa is very smooth, and easy to fight with. In fact I prefer it to the early model (Mercedes powered) DVII we currently have.

The SPAD is still the "uber" plane of the sim so far, but the upcoming SEVa will steal some of it's thunder. The Pfalz D3 is an unknown quantity to me, other than what it looks like. We shall see...

Hi ElAurens, yes I have to agree regarding the Nieuport 28, nimble aircraft and nice roll rate, its a real challenge aiming with those offset guns too.....a good trainer if ever there was for the necessity of getting in close, as you should. I too prefer the handling of the Dva, looks great too

Re the Spad, I would disagree that anything in this sim thus far is "Uber", but then I have never believed in the concept of "Uber" planes. It is always the pilot that matters. Performance is of course great, fast and a great diver, relatively stable gun platform too. One big weakness however is cockpit visibility, SA is always paramount, but in this sim more than others.....and with the Spad if you don't have trackir then forget about it. Have to agree though, its my personal fave thus far.

This is a welcome move by Neoqb, and at least shows willingness to address community grievances (of which there have been many) and shows good will. This will go a long way, as will this sim with more much needed hard work. They seem to be grasping this, and I look forward to the bigger second patch. I am an optimist, and hopefully its onwards and upwards from here.

Now go make me a Sopwith Snipe!!

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

This is a welcome move by Neoqb, and at least shows willingness to address community grievances (of which there have been many) and shows good will. This will go a long way, as will this sim with more much needed hard work. They seem to be grasping this, and I look forward to the bigger second patch. I am an optimist, and hopefully its onwards and upwards from here.

Now go make me a Sopwith Snipe!!

Yes, a very good move on their part...this should help with the sale's of this sim, both short and long term...brovo

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Yes, a very good move on their part...this should help with the sale's of this sim, both short and long term...brovo

I agree.

[DuxCorvan]

I just think they're just charging you for content that was ready and should have been included with the retail out-of-the-box "vanilla" game from the start. Making necessary content out of the retail game and selling it to you days after initial release as meager "add-ons", does not show good willingness, but real gullibility on your part.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

I just think they're just charging you for content that was ready and should have been included with the retail out-of-the-box "vanilla" game from the start. Making necessary content out of the retail game and selling it to you days after initial release as meager "add-ons", does not show good willingness, but real gullibility on your part.

These idiots are kidding themselves.

Only a fool would buy an incomplete anything on the promise the rest is yet to come, oh that's if they don't go bust in the mean time before relieving you of more money to complete your "game/sim".

It reminds me of the Di Agostini business model where you buy a monthly magazine with a part attached to it until you collect all the parts and have built the magazines advertised item, car plane boat etc, problem is the thing ends up costing ten times what its worth and it don't work either, but you have collected faithfully every month over the last year paying through the nose for a piece of worthless junk.

In this case it seems you have paid up front for a very basic shell and will continue to "fill" it out at your own expense, they must be laughing all the way to the bank (hopefully they are investing it in a bank) and will continue to service their cash cow and not dump the project leaving customers with an incomplete basic WWI sim that you cant use because the registration server has gone and cant call home to launch the game and join a server that no longer exists.

Just my thoughts

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by DuxCorvan

I just think they're just charging you for content that was ready and should have been included with the retail out-of-the-box "vanilla" game from the start. Making necessary content out of the retail game and selling it to you days after initial release as meager "add-ons", does not show good willingness, but real gullibility on your part.

No, DuxCorvan. Being fully cognizant and aware of their business model and intent to charge for add ons (which they have always been clear about) does not show "real gullibility" on my part, thank you. Perhaps you would like to look up the definition of the word "gullibility".......Implying susceptibility to deception. No deception has taken place, but thanks for the concern.......I really need people like you to look out for me in this big bad world

The "extra" new planes were for free, as the Russians had them also....Making now 4 flyables in the soon to come initial Euro release. Nothing charged. People are free to buy or not as they choose, it will not affect online play, and regardless they will appear as AI. I have no intention of buying the Nieuport 17 for example, because I have no interest in it. The cost of a new plane you could not buy two pints of beer in Newcastles Bigg Market for. (Around £4.60 I think).

I'm happy with that. You're not. Nevermind, eh. It takes all sorts, and I think we will be able to live without you mate, no offence

Cheers.