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[jt_medina]

Sometimes the most unbelievable things can happen.

There was a Russian tactic called TARAN or RAM for the western. When the Russian pilot exhausted his ammunition he could hit the enemy airplane by using the propeller of his airplane.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...romoid=googlep


You can even do this in IL2.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by jt_medina

Sometimes the most unbelievable things can happen.

There was a Russian tactic called TARAN or RAM for the western. When the Russian pilot exhausted his ammunition he could hit the enemy airplane by using the propeller of his airplane.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...romoid=googlep


You can even do this in IL2.

the germans did this to american bombers for 1 day using lightened bf109s it failed and german high command never tried it again

[jt_medina]

It had to be a difficult and dangerous tactic. I tried it in the IL2 simulator and it´s really difficult and risky.

[Spitfire23]

Originally Posted by jt_medina

It had to be a difficult and dangerous tactic. I tried it in the IL2 simulator and it´s really difficult and risky.

Agreed, it certainly would take a very skilled pilot to pull that off,

Its a fairly stupid tactic aswell (Obviously) i mean whats stopping a piece of the prop coming through the canopy?

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by Spitfire23

Agreed, it certainly would take a very skilled pilot to pull that off,

Its a fairly stupid tactic aswell (Obviously) i mean whats stopping a piece of the prop coming through the canopy?

Actually, they weren't skilled at all. Like the kamakazis, they were tricked into volunteering for it. it was called the Sonderkommando Elbe.

It was also featured on Dogfights. You can search the full 2hour special on Youtube since the author disabled the links.

[HauptmannMolders]

Just reading the earlier posts here I'dlike to add that the germans had the most strict rules to confirm kills of all the major parties in the war and it is in fact more likely that he shot down even more. This does not mean he was that much better than any allied/russian pilot but he was an incredible talent and he had ALOT more opportunity to rack up kills. Goring himself sent people to the Eastern Front to monitor kills because he didin't believe it. The Luftwaffe believed very much in a leader and a wingman, in fact it was always the squadron leaders racking up the kills while their wingmen watched their backs. It created some definite animosity among some lower ranked pilots and in some cases was a very risky practice for other reasons. When Joachim Marseille was killed his unit basically fell apart temporarily as they lost their very soul in many ways. Ironically the wingmen would usually get their chance to be promoted when the leaders were killed. Perhaps though the single most important fact was that the pilots did not do tours they fought until the were killed, captured or injured beyond recovery. They got leave but always had to come back. Its all about experience and opportunity, and they more of both then their enemies.

I really like the idea of a reward for a kill while your engine is off. I believe it was Bud Anderson though not Robin Olds that did this in a P-51.

What about "Collateral Damage" where an enemy you've shot down collides with another enemy on his way down.

[Spitfire23]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Actually, they weren't skilled at all. Like the kamakazis, they were tricked into volunteering for it. it was called the Sonderkommando Elbe.

It was also featured on Dogfights. You can search the full 2hour special on Youtube since the author disabled the links.

Oh i see, thanks for the heads up, will certainly check that out. Thanks

[jt_medina]

I recommend people to watch those documentaries.
History Channel - Dogfights (season 1 and 2)
http://www.history.com/content/dogfi...out-the-series

By watching those documentaries I realized that IL2 is somehow very realistic in terms of the tactics and maneuvers that you can use.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Actually, they weren't skilled at all. Like the kamakazis, they were tricked into volunteering for it. it was called the Sonderkommando Elbe.

It was also featured on Dogfights. You can search the full 2hour special on Youtube since the author disabled the links.

no they weren't

[haitch40]

how about this for a reward
hero to zero
recreate Butch-o-hare become a top ace and get killed by a bomber behind you sad story but how can u let a bomber be on ur 6oclock?