oleg, you better hurry, RoF is releasing a ww-2 sim next

Bobb4 · #1 06-22-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zapatista

they dont plan to "finish it", they simply will make the missing items in it for sale as addons, expansions and features

the problem is that an unfinished product like that being sold to enough silly people willing to buy it can now be seen by RoF as validation that this sale model works, and that people are prepared to pay full price for that little content

me mentioning they are now already working on a ww2 sim based on the same "game concept" is not idle speculation i grabbed out of the air, i saw this from indications in post from some of their own programmers and designers in other forums

Was not going to take a dig at another sim but, I will anyway.
I remember many months ago having a discussion on OFF about the pricing of their Phase 3.
I was lambasted because I told them the market would not support the high $50 price tag plus shipping. Well it is now selling for a more realistic to quote their site - NEW SPECIAL OFFER - OFF @ $29.99 (+p&p and taxes) see BUY page - Back on topic ROF is bright and shiny and new. But interest is already starting to disipate as reports of problems filter in.
The reason IL2 stood the test of time is because it was a basically sound product from the word go. Yes many patches later it is the near perfection we see today.
Unfortunately ROF is not a sound product. Why would I pay to fly a Fokker DR1 if I am already an ACE in an Albatros. Why would I pay to have winter landscape?
I would pay if the overall game worked, and I was dragged into the world through immersion. Yes buy the game I will, but I doubt I will be buying any add on planes until they offer something concrete in the way of dynamic campaign and better online play.
Unfortunately for them I am the same guy who would buy their WW2 sim. So if I am let down by ROF they cannot realistically expect me to buy their WW2 sim.

One thing I can say about Oleg, his sims have never let me down, even Il2 version one, you know the one, the one that had no flyable Stuka.
Hours of training just to learn how to land a plane properly. Who had ever heard of such a thing.

csThor · #2 06-22-2009, 12:37 PM

ROF hasn't even scratched the surface of flyable and AI aircraft they need to realistically depict their own "1917" subtitle. If they choose to ignore the scanty planeset and press for a totally new release they'll end up in obscurity - forgotten, ignored and scarcely lamented.

brando · #3 06-22-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by csThor

ROF hasn't even scratched the surface of flyable and AI aircraft they need to realistically depict their own "1917" subtitle.

Especially when half the flyable aircraft hadn't even been introduced into service by the end of that year!

"The D.VII entered squadron service with Jasta 10 in early May 1918." Anyone can find out that information by googling Fokker DVII - but the RoF guys tend to ignore history it seems.

Now, I've read some RoF fans saying that historical context isn't important (@simhq) but I think that's a derisory excuse for such an anachronism. I've always had a love for WW1 aviation: Mickey Mannock and Albert Ball were my father's boyhood heroes and I caught it off him. I would love to take part in a WW1 sim, but nothing about RoF inspires me to buy it.

Brando

Insuber · #4 06-22-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobb4

Was not going to take a dig at another sim but, I will anyway.
I remember many months ago having a discussion on OFF about the pricing of their Phase 3.
I was lambasted because I told them the market would not support the high $50 price tag plus shipping. Well it is now selling for a more realistic to quote their site - NEW SPECIAL OFFER - OFF @ $29.99 (+p&p and taxes) see BUY page - Back on topic ROF is bright and shiny and new. But interest is already starting to disipate as reports of problems filter in.
The reason IL2 stood the test of time is because it was a basically sound product from the word go. Yes many patches later it is the near perfection we see today.
Unfortunately ROF is not a sound product. Why would I pay to fly a Fokker DR1 if I am already an ACE in an Albatros. Why would I pay to have winter landscape?
I would pay if the overall game worked, and I was dragged into the world through immersion. Yes buy the game I will, but I doubt I will be buying any add on planes until they offer something concrete in the way of dynamic campaign and better online play.
Unfortunately for them I am the same guy who would buy their WW2 sim. So if I am let down by ROF they cannot realistically expect me to buy their WW2 sim.

One thing I can say about Oleg, his sims have never let me down, even Il2 version one, you know the one, the one that had no flyable Stuka.
Hours of training just to learn how to land a plane properly. Who had ever heard of such a thing.

+1. We can complain about Il2 defects or omissions, but after a quick reality check with the competitors' products we go back to father Oleg as a bunch of prodigal sons.

Regards,
Insuber

Buster_Dee · #5 06-23-2009, 04:37 AM

Well, I've already pre-ordered--more as a curiosity. There is not a chance that I would ignore Oleg's work as a result. I just think WW1 is somewhat neglected, and I just wanted to support it this go-around. But, to be honest, I hadn't given much thought to the bait-and-switch game RoF is playing on us. I don't want to be ANYONE's perpetual income unless they want to earn every cent, every time. Looks like I bought "potential" this time. I just might cancel the pre-order.