ROF is out on may 7th

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by zauii

The same goes for RoF anything can be implemented in patches, updates and addons.
- Zauii

except of course that with il2 you purchased a complete game with lots of flyable planes from the start which you could play on your own offline in single missions or as a campaign, and use coops over lan and the internet, and didnt require you to give your CC information online to some unknown company. it had lots of free updates and patches, then had further addons and improvements over the years that made major improvements (those were for sale)

compare that to RoF, where you only get 2 flyable planes at the start, and immediately are expected to keep paying more money to add more planes, you cant play it offline, can only buy the game online with a CC which goes to some foreign country that isnt governed by our consumer laws, and you need a cray supercomputer to run scenery which looks like a 1990's game just because they added 100's of trees that eat your cpu cycles

i'd say those 2 consumer options are very different

[zauii]

Originally Posted by zapatista

except of course that with il2 you purchased a complete game with lots of flyable planes from the start which you could play on your own offline in single missions or as a campaign, and use coops over lan and the internet, and didnt require you to give your CC information online to some unknown company. it had lots of free updates and patches, then had further addons and improvements over the years that made major improvements (those were for sale)

compare that to RoF, where you only get 2 flyable planes at the start, and immediately are expected to keep paying more money to add more planes, you cant play it offline, can only buy the game online with a CC which goes to some foreign country that isnt governed by our consumer laws, and you need a cray supercomputer to run scenery which looks like a 1990's game just because they added 100's of trees that eat your cpu cycles

i'd say those 2 consumer options are very different

No point in discussing with you anymore, you're behaving like a child somewhere along these lines "IL2 is my favorite TOY and its WAY better than yours no matter what you say or do so piss off neighbor,". I don't know if you're just a 56k user pissed due to the online connection judging that you're first complaint only was about it.

If you wanna consider yourself a winner of the thread war go ahead you've changed no-ones opinion by doing it, just making a fool out of yourself.
If you want to discuss in real time ; headyownz@hotmail.com is my msn you're more than welcome or you'll find me at SIMHQ.

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[zapatista]

Originally Posted by zauii

No point in discussing with you anymore,

your not "discussing" anything, maybe look the word up in a dictionary so you actually know what it means before you use it. all you have done so far is to have a temper tantrum and become obnoxious when somebody pointed out some of the OBVIOUS negative points identified in RoF so far.

Originally Posted by zauii

you're behaving like a child somewhere along these lines "IL2 is my favorite TOY and its WAY better than yours no matter what you say or do so piss off neighbor,"

is your attention span really that short you dont even know what you just posted before in this same thread ? YOU brought up the comparison with il2, i just pointed out that what you stated in your ill attempted comparison is irrational and you dont seem to know your facts

Originally Posted by zauii

I don't know if you're just a 56k user pissed due to the online connection judging that you're first complaint only was about it.

other forum users here dont really have the time to wait for you to actually grow a brain, they will just make their opinion up from what you actually posted, so to resolve the folly maybe your keyboard should be taken away instead. there are MANY reasons why requiring a 24/7 net connection to a remote server russia doesnt make sense for home gaming, for ex ...
- to play solo missions with an AI element only, play a campaign, or do some coops over a lan with another pc in your house/office its simply NOT NEEDED to perform those tasks, and in fact prevents many people from using the game in many situations, not just having a 56k modem from 1992
- many people now are on adsl with phones and other pc's taking access of the same phone line, not all those other games/uses can use data shaping to make sure each user has a constant minimum in net access for their application to function and prevent sudden disconnection
- laptops and game consoles are taken on holiday, to the beach house, on long train journeys, to the office for breaktime etc, or used in rooms in a house that might not have a network connection

the simple fact is that IT IS NOT NEEDED for the game to function to FORCE permanent 24/7 internet or network access, its a nuisance factor simply added by the game creators in the naive belief it will raise money and people will follow them like little sheep just because there is a shiny toy at the end of the piece of string, yet in their ignorance they have excluded 90% of their potential customers at the same time (going by official il2 stats stated by oleg 90% of il2 flightsim series users only used it offline)

Originally Posted by zauii

If you wanna consider yourself a winner of the thread war go ahead you've changed no-ones opinion by doing it, just making a fool out of yourself.

your teen level of logic, or lack of logic i should say, makes you rather boring. does your mind really have only 2 levels of comprehending the universe around you, they either agree with you and wag their tails at whatever new toy you just found, or the only other option being they want to "win" a thread ? lol, at least you'r good for a laugh

i'll try and help you out since your new here and so you dont keep running into walls and keep blaming the universe. for most forums, including the thread on the current topic, post something smart and interesting about what is new and great about RoF and what you think will make it a great sim, and most people will probably just come over to have a looksee and shoot the breeze.

but if you pretend there are no legitimate complaints or concerns, and make only obnoxious remarks and pretend your the only person that has an opinion that matters then you'll probably run into trouble, simple really

Originally Posted by zauii

If you want to discuss in real time ; headyownz@hotmail.com is my msn you're more than welcome or you'll find me at SIMHQ.

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unless you get an IQ and EQ upgrade in the near future, i doubt you'll be more interesting to talk to next time

have a nice trip !!