the raw numbers

[Furio]

Respectfully, I disagree.
An eventual Luftwaffe victory couldn’t come after the end of 1940, six months before Barbarossa. At that point, United Kingdom would have been without any reasonable mean to continue fighting: no fighters for the RAF, no tanks and guns for the army, already lost in France.
A compromise would have been inevitable.
In my opinion.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Furio

Respectfully, I disagree.
An eventual Luftwaffe victory couldn’t come after the end of 1940, six months before Barbarossa. At that point, United Kingdom would have been without any reasonable mean to continue fighting: no fighters for the RAF, no tanks and guns for the army, already lost in France.
A compromise would have been inevitable.
In my opinion.

You are willfully ignoring the existence of the British navy. It was the largest in the world at the time, bigger than Germany's by a much greater ratio than it was at the time of the Battle of Jutland. The Axis needed to utterly destroy Fighter Command, so that their bombers could interdict the British Navy from sinking whatever they sent across the channel. The Germans couldn't get across the Channel except by boat, and the British Navy would easily have sunk those, and any ships trying to defend them, except perhaps for the intervention of airpower.

The Bismark ran for the open sea, destroying the Hood on the way, but the Hood group was one of many searching for her, to have taken on the entire British Fleet would have been utterly suicidal. The Tirpitz lurked in fjords for the entire war, there was nothing better to do with her.

There was never any question of a surrender without an invasion. The Axis did bomb cities, as later did the allies, and in neither case was anything like a surrender forthcoming.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

You are willfully ignoring the existence of the British navy.

There was never any question of a surrender without an invasion.

I’m willfully ignoring nothing.
Royal Navy couldn’t defend British cities from Luftwaffe bombing.

And I’m not talking of surrender without invasion.
My opinion, and actually it’s not only mine, is that losing the Battle of Britain alone would have forced United Kingdom to accept a compromise with Germany.
Hitler would have conceded it gladly and without heavy conditions, just to have a free hand against Russia.

[KG26_Alpha]

Battle of Britain

Air Battle England during Summer & Autumn of 1940

Battle for Britain

That's a different thing completely.

Winning the Battle of Britain doesnt mean surrender, you need ground troops to enforce capitulation.

Operation Sealion was never "serious" enough to be considered feasible even with Luftwaffe air superiority.

If you think Churchill would have said " Ok you have beaten us in the air, we wont fight you any more" you are mistaken.

Of course IMHO

[Furio]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Of course IMHO

You’re opinion is as good as mine. History can’t be changed.