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[achillies_ny]

Well, its just the trend I see as a console gamer. Lots of the games are like playing a movie, but thats it, its only really fun the first time through, you know what to expect. Of course I'm talking about action games, story driven action games. But I noticed Hawx went strongly down this course. I still get more excitied watching the FMVs from the Fighter Anthology, they are more grounded in reality.

Really I am forgeting that this is a game based on historically accurate events. So I don't think I am going to be disappointed. and thats cool your still working at getting good.

what do most people do online, boom and zoom? or do they take minimul fuel and outturn everyone with a spitfire. Its going to be hard tying to use the rudder in a banking turn on a gamepad lol, also lower the brakes, lower thrust, gawd i really need a flight stick

[Raw Kryptonite]

Believe me, it's not just console games, it's games in general.
To get a pc combat flight sim, you still have to go back to IL2, LOMAC...same games that have been out for a long time. There's nothing out there from the big companies at all. DCS Blackshark is a very serious new sim, but the first one in a long time. There are some slightly less sim-like games that are very good, like Wings Over Europe or Enemy Engaged 2, but again those are from small groups.

If IL2 does well, it'll be very good for flight sims in general, console as well as pc. We need it. I remember walking into a CompUSA years ago and flight sims practically had their own row. LOL It would be nice to get gaming for a more mature crowd instead of just the attention-deficit crowd being indulged. Sounds like this game will be able to meet that need.

[trk29]

Originally Posted by achillies_ny

Well, its just the trend I see as a console gamer. Lots of the games are like playing a movie, but thats it, its only really fun the first time through, you know what to expect. Of course I'm talking about action games, story driven action games. But I noticed Hawx went strongly down this course. I still get more excitied watching the FMVs from the Fighter Anthology, they are more grounded in reality.

Really I am forgeting that this is a game based on historically accurate events. So I don't think I am going to be disappointed. and thats cool your still working at getting good.

what do most people do online, boom and zoom? or do they take minimul fuel and outturn everyone with a spitfire. Its going to be hard tying to use the rudder in a banking turn on a gamepad lol, also lower the brakes, lower thrust, gawd i really need a flight stick

If you haven't played the original you are missing out. That is one of the best games I've ever owned, in general. By watching the small amount of clips of this game that are out, I would think this game is going to be very very close to the original.

I can't freaking wait. Very good discussion. We need more of this.

[xNikex]

Yeah, it sucks not having a Mission Editor but hopefully we will see it as a DLC and maybe later we'll see Pacific Fighters or 1946.

Would like to hear some news from Anton...

[Raw Kryptonite]

If the game is well made and has the right number of options, built in scenarios/missions etc. then I don't need a mission editor. DLC would be great, and I'm willing to pay if it's not horse armor. LOL

Far Cry 2 had a brilliant map editor like many have been clamoring about for years, but I don't know anyone playing the game--the gameplay isn't there. However, several of us STILL throw in Ghost Recon Summit Strike, even 4 years (and one console) after release. No campaign editor, no map editor, but a great game and gameplay.

Over G Fighters...for the main MP gametype you have ONE map. One. LOL
The gameplay is there as is the realism. That's why several of us still play the game.

Give me good gameplay and enough content and I don't need any editors. If they spend the time making the game better and better instead of on editors, then that's time well spent IMO.

[trk29]

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

If the game is well made and has the right number of options, built in scenarios/missions etc. then I don't need a mission editor. DLC would be great, and I'm willing to pay if it's not horse armor. LOL

Far Cry 2 had a brilliant map editor like many have been clamoring about for years, but I don't know anyone playing the game--the gameplay isn't there. However, several of us STILL throw in Ghost Recon Summit Strike, even 4 years (and one console) after release. No campaign editor, no map editor, but a great game and gameplay.

Over G Fighters...for the main MP gametype you have ONE map. One. LOL
The gameplay is there as is the realism. That's why several of us still play the game.

Give me good gameplay and enough content and I don't need any editors. If they spend the time making the game better and better instead of on editors, then that's time well spent IMO.

I feel ya! I bought Far Cry 2 and loved the idea of the mission (map) editor. But now that I am older and have tons of things to do (like having a family), building maps took up way to much time. I only made one map and it took me hours. I did download a ton of them though.

I would rather play the game than make maps. Don't get me wrong I would love to be able to make missions in BOP but I doubt I would use it enough to make it worth it to me. I would just like a quick mission where the game builds it for me but does it different every time. Give me that with a great MP and hopefully co-op, and I am set.

[achillies_ny]

Good point, they must've had similar Focus sessions lol.

I saw the youtube videos of the kiosk setup running a alpha version, looks awesome...

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

If the game is well made and has the right number of options, built in scenarios/missions etc. then I don't need a mission editor. DLC would be great, and I'm willing to pay if it's not horse armor. LOL

Far Cry 2 had a brilliant map editor like many have been clamoring about for years, but I don't know anyone playing the game--the gameplay isn't there. However, several of us STILL throw in Ghost Recon Summit Strike, even 4 years (and one console) after release. No campaign editor, no map editor, but a great game and gameplay.

Over G Fighters...for the main MP gametype you have ONE map. One. LOL
The gameplay is there as is the realism. That's why several of us still play the game.

Give me good gameplay and enough content and I don't need any editors. If they spend the time making the game better and better instead of on editors, then that's time well spent IMO.

I was thinking that too like, changing the Campaign or MP slightly would be fine.

Or opening a private match and choosing settings like map, time of day, weather, etc. for my game.

Yeah, I wish they would have added bad guys and made the maps smaller because I always like making beautiful towns and jungles with good detail only to zoom out and see I've only filled one quater of the map and am out of memory.

[Mr_V]

If achilles_ny doesn't mind, I'll just tag on here here to introduce myself in my first post, rather than start a whole new thread. Partially because I'm in very much the same situation as him:

I'm another old (pushing 40!) escapee of the PC flight sim scene of the 90s who hasn't played a real sim (or even owned a gaming PC) in years. And I, too, have felt the old longing for the freedom of the skies return when I heard about a proper sim coming to consoles. Here's hoping that 1C and Gaijin don't let us down! :)

This may sound a little crazy, but if BoP turns out to be as good as promised I may well buy it on both Xbox 360 and PS3 since I own both consoles already, just to maximise my own chances of getting to play online with fellow devotees.

Been reading this forum for some time now. Thought I might as well register and start contributing as well. :)

Right, back to console flightstick shopping…