SoW:BoB?

[virre89]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

SOW: BOB is no addon.

It was first planned to be a further addon for IL2, then it was decided to create the Battle of Britain as first theater of war for a completely new engine: Storm of War.

It's been in development just short over 2 years, now, and it has not been officially announced by a distributor. So you won't find it on UBI-Sites and/or Maddox Games.

For the same reason news are a bit thin, though you can find a lot of screenshots and some videos of certain features of the new game and a couple of interviews and Q&As.

Be sure to check out these threads for further details:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...?t=2040&page=1

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=6909

If i don't recall wrong it's been in development between 3-4 years.
Also footage was seen on 1946 disk from Storm of War.

[KG26_Alpha]

BoB SOW web site developer gets a ticking off !!!!!

HERE

very good.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by virre89

If i don't recall wrong it's been in development between 3-4 years.
Also footage was seen on 1946 disk from Storm of War.

That's pretty often claimed, but it is wrong:

Q: Oleg, considering that your progress with Battle of Britain is over 60%, as you’ve said, we’re getting the impression that working on BoB is taking too long, for example compared to Il-2. Is that correct?

A: I wouldn’t say that. Il-2 Sturmovik was in development for 4 years before its 2001 release. First we built the engine, then everything else. Then we continued making various improvements and built a new 3D engine (the Perfect mode that shipped with Forgotten Battles was in fact a whole new 3D engine). All this work took another 4 years before Il-2 1946. That’s a total of 8 years, 4 of them spent on updates and expansions.

We initially wanted to make Battle of Britain on the Il-2 engine. However that would be the last thing we could do with it. And then what? The engine was beginning to show its age by that time, despite many revolutionary features which Il-2 brought to the genre in 2001, and which many developers have tried to replicate since. By 2005 we’ve finally realized that we had to build a new engine. First only one person worked on it, then two, all while continuing to work on Il-2 as well. We’ve really switched over to BoB only after all work on Il-2 was completed, i.e. in 2007. So BoB’s only been in development for 2 years now. It isn’t all that much compared to all the goals we’re trying to achieve. The tasks at hand are enormous. We want to outdo ourselves, and of course all those who claim that they’re better than Il-2 (which they finally get to claim years after we’ve stopped all work on the product). So far we haven’t even spent the time on BoB that we spent making the original Il-2.

Speaking of other developers, we’ve given one team the entire Il-2 source code a long time ago, and they were supposed to release their sim even before 1946 in order to turn a profit. However they decided instead to make their own engine, etc. It still drags on, so how long has that been in development now? I hope this example makes it clear to everyone that anything not based on an existing engine takes a lot of time.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=6494

How can that be wrong?? on the the Mystic Puma video in Birmingham It was clearly said that they were hoping for a November release that same year, its obvious to everybody and his dog that development of this project has been going on for 3 yrs or more.

[virre89]

I understand your quote Feaurfalke but it doesn't claim SoW have been in development only 2 years. Remember they also co-developed it while still working on IL2 so it's kinda hard to estimate.

However if two years is the precise number than it's no wonder that the sim is not out yet, a decent game takes at least 3 years of development and counting the dev time for IL2 it won't be reaching us until earliest 2010.

[Chivas]

BOB's first possible release date was announced by Oleg for the end of 2005, but realized the IL-2 engine would have to be replaced.

BOB SOW with the new game engine was announced by UBI in May 2006 with a release date of Nov 2006. ( We haven't heard anything from UBI since.)

The developer and publisher must have figured that BOB SOW wasn't possible on 2006 computer systems, but there was still money to be made on IL-2 engine addons. So they concentrated most of the developers crew on addons like Pacific Fighters, Pe-2, IL-2 1946 etc. With only one or two people working on the SOW in that time.

Work on SOW began in earnest in 2007 after the release of IL-2 1946.

Many people mistakenly believe that the game is only 60% finished. Its the game features that are only 60% finished. I would imagine the game engine is mostly done as are a very large percentage of the planes and objects.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by virre89

I understand your quote Feaurfalke but it doesn't claim SoW have been in development only 2 years. Remember they also co-developed it while still working on IL2 so it's kinda hard to estimate.

However if two years is the precise number than it's no wonder that the sim is not out yet, a decent game takes at least 3 years of development and counting the dev time for IL2 it won't be reaching us until earliest 2010.

It doesn't?

"We’ve really switched over to BoB only after all work on Il-2 was completed, i.e. in 2007."

At that time work on the real new engine started. 2009 - 2007 = 2 years.


Indeed it is no wonder why it is not out yet, but some people seem to know better than Oleg himself and of course, they rather listen to a years old publishers advertisement than to the actual statements from the one making the game...
The kind of "buahh, you promised me the candy if I'd be patient for a week - YOU PROMISED!"

And as the engine is ready, the rest is taking less time. Maybe another year, who knows. At least they are working very hard to get it done quickly and even the Project Galba-Team is now working with Oleg's team to get it finished as soon as possible.


Still some people have the wood not only in their names.

Feuerfalke, read Chivas's post again. Its simple maths.

[Skarphol]

Me too think Chivas has it fairly much covered.
That said; the information we get is so scarce and sketchy that it is impossible to be certain of anything IMO. I'm amazed by the way some people post statements that are allmost presented as facts while they really must be assumptions and guesses.

Skarphol