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Old 04-14-2009, 11:53 PM
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Actually if I'm not mistaken one actually removes your outter guns which is supposed to help in terms of weight. In the game it doesn't help at all because you still have a bomb rack even after droping the bomb. You will suffer in terms of speed and turning so it doesn't make sense to remove your outter guns. I wish it did.
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:42 AM
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u3 removes the guns, me thinks.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:25 AM
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The bomb rack isn't modelled to cause any effect in terms of performance.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:29 AM
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actually, having ECT rack in early anton causes depending on model 20mph and wing racks bout 10mph additional loss in speed...
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:45 AM
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The bomb rack isn't modelled to cause any effect in terms of performance.
Hello Alpha,
are you sure about that? Do you have any test results?
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:09 PM
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Once the bomb is dropped the rack has no effect on drag.

This was discussed over 5-6 years ago with Oleg/1C team.

This thread has some discussion in 2004, some of the bugs were never fixed as far as I know.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...4971017542/p/1

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...0171#926100171

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5295#850105295

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Old 04-15-2009, 02:52 PM
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Thank you.
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:53 PM
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Once the bomb is dropped the rack has no effect on drag.

This was discussed over 5-6 years ago with Oleg/1C team.

This thread has some discussion in 2004, some of the bugs were never fixed as far as I know.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...4971017542/p/1

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...0171#926100171

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5295#850105295
Your statment is incorrect.. The A-4 through the A-6 suffer from the bomb rack when taking a bomb even after dropping your bomb. It effects the top speed compared to a clean version of the plane. You need to read through your links carefuly to understand what's going on.

That why going with the option of removing your outter guns you don't gain any additional speed for the lost of weight nor does it affect turning or stall speed. When you remove your outter guns it puts a bomb rack on. Look at your second link. I can also confirm this through experience.

What is adding to the confusion is the fact the A-8 and the A-9 series doesn't suffer from the bomb rack even if you take a bomb. Once you drop your bomb its as if you're in a clean version of the plane. This is a well known error. There are many others I can point out about the FW series but it sorta pointless given nothing will be done about it.

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Old 04-15-2009, 04:46 PM
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The bug was fixed, but the rack was left as having no effect on the aircraft once the bomb was released, as per the last sentence in your post.

I'm just pointing out it was a known bug with the A's that the rack didn't affect the aircraft, though there were/are problems with some of the load outs.

I didn't make a statement declaring anything, just pointed out some know facts.



BTW: the roll rate was/should be affected by removing outer cannons.

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Old 04-15-2009, 03:49 PM
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The bomb rack isn't modelled to cause any effect in terms of performance.
This is incorrect when it comes to the A-4 though the A-6 Series. The A-8 and the A-9 the bomb rack isn't modeled.
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