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Old 02-06-2018, 04:25 AM
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It's not the only mission that has some issues
http://www.mission4today.com/index.p...wtopic&t=22312
but any user with a little knowledge can fix them.
Agreed, as I said. We have a wealth of players with the knowledge to provide fixes as I have done, but it all takes work. The point is, by sharing this fix here Daidalos now has the option to fix this broken mission for everyone with presumably minimal effort to themselves. Maybe there should be more of this. I think it's a reasonable expectation that the provided Single Missions should work in a way that makes reasonable sense, without user editing. I'd be interested to hear what Daidalos think about it.
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Old 02-06-2018, 05:09 PM
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I super agree with you in regards of having good single player missions. Like for example, the He-162 mission in which almost all your squadron hits a hill that's near your airstrip. You have to take off in pairs in order to make your mates not exploding. But while DT doesn't patch those missions one can do it without much effort. I may sound like a conformist, but I'd prefer DT making new maps before changing missions.
Everyone can change missions. Not many can make mod planes or maps. Maybe we could check for every mission that has issues and upload them in M4T or something like that, and hope DT makes them official and whatnot.
There is the P-40B mission, the soviet P-47D mission and the He-162. I don't know if there are more.
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:39 AM
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I agree that the heavy time should go into other things. That's why I'm offering the fixes ready made. I think with the fixes already worked out they should only take minutes to add to a patch, and then everyone has them. Am I wrong?
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Old 02-07-2018, 02:27 PM
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I agree that the heavy time should go into other things. That's why I'm offering the fixes ready made. I think with the fixes already worked out they should only take minutes to add to a patch, and then everyone has them. Am I wrong?
I'm agreeing with you.
Now the issue is distributing the fixes via official patch or via 3rd party. If official patch is the way, then the developers would still need to troubleshoot them, if we screw something and we don't know, or there is a distribution trouble or anything. 3rd party means that someone scans for viruses and maybe makes sure that there is a .mis file inside, so there is less stuff for DT to do. In time, these fixes may be made official, even.
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Old 02-08-2018, 05:23 AM
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the developers would still need to troubleshoot them
This is minutes, not hours ... if the fixes work. If they don't work they give us a kick in the toosh and ask us to fix it properly this time! I really think my method (requiring a simple cut and paste of two lines in this case) is more direct and time efficient than the M4T upload option, but hopefully someone from the team will read this thread soon and share their wishes in this regard.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:09 AM
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The way the patches are created moving the P-40B folder from the UN to US folder is somewhat problematic. DT uses WinRAR for their update patches but I have never seen them or the Maddox team for that matter use the remove feature of that program. The existing file is just overwrote to update it.

Updating the mission and leaving it in the same folder wouldn't be much of a problem and I suspect any fixes would be along those lines although I do agree the missions should have always been in the US folder.


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Old 03-16-2018, 10:11 AM
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Wheels, I think I understand what you're saying.

A normal patch would overwrite an existing file in an existing location, or create a new file in a new location.

So I think you're saying that a patch could easily place the amended mission file in the US folder but the old faulty mission would still exist unchanged in the UN folder as well because they can't delete it.

If that is the case I would get around that by having a prominent note in the Readme file of the patch asking players to delete the old file in the UN folder manually. And if players don't read that note, well, no harm done. Those people just have two versions of the mission ... one which works the way it did before, and the other that is fixed ... and the rest of us have the fixed one in the correct folder!

Same for the other US P-40B mission.
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