New planes requests (from other threads/please pin it)

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Luftwaffe unit OOBs shows that the F version was widely used, and in general such units had a mix of C/D/E/F variants up to early 1943 when the G arrived in large numbers. I do not have much idea about internal changes, except that the Bf 110F had a DB 601F engine, similar to the DB 601E of the Bf 109 F-4 but with different reduction ratio.

The book "German Aircraft Interiors vol.1" show the very same picture posted above, and the captios says it is a F version. Not sure if it is enough to model it though...

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

Luftwaffe unit OOBs shows that the F version was widely used, and in general such units had a mix of C/D/E/F variants up to early 1943 when the G arrived in large numbers.

This is useful info. There's a lovely picture of the D variant (mit dackelbauch auxiliary fuel tank) flying over the Mediterranean, and it's quite likely that the captured plane that US engineers examined was taken from North Africa. My ignorant guess is that it was the F variant. So, its clear that the D, E, F variants, as well as the surviving C variants, were used in the Mediterranean.

The surviving F-2 variant aircraft in Berlin was used in early 1943 in Finland, until it was damaged by flak, landed on thin ice, and sank into a lake. That happy fact accounts for its survival.

Other Bf-110F units (probably with surviving D & E models) were used around Stalingrad. They were fairly effective on the Russian Front, and it appears that the only reason they were withdrawn was because of the increasing threat of Western Allied heavy bomber raids into Germany. So, the F variant is a gap in the mid-war Eastern Front German Order of Battle.

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

I do not have much idea about internal changes, except that the Bf 110F had a DB 601F engine, similar to the DB 601E of the Bf 109 F-4 but with different reduction ratio.

I believe that the D,E,F series used roughly the same engine nacelles as the G series, albeit possibly with minor changes to air intakes and exhaust manifolds. Tropical air filters would have to be added if they're not already present for the C model.

Cockpit would have had to have been different from the C to accommodate bomb and drop tank release controls, and fuel tank selector switches for the auxiliary tanks (dackelbauch, drop tanks, or both).

Gunner's cockpit is hard to figure out. I'm not sure if any of the D, E, F series got the twin MG defensive guns of the G model, but it would have been an easy field mod if they did have them.

If someone could take a look at the cockpit photo of the US technical report and compare it to the C and G versions of the Bf-110 cockpit, that would clear up a lot of confusion.

The US report is wonderfully detailed for most things, but I'm not sure that they actually tested the engines which came with the captured Bf-110. They just say that the engines are DB601, but don't get into any further detail.

If it turns out that the US example was the F-2 variant, it will be a great source of documentation.

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano

The book "German Aircraft Interiors vol.1" show the very same picture posted above, and the captios says it is a F version. Not sure if it is enough to model it though...

What we really need is good pictures of the cockpit of the Berlin museum aircraft. Is there a Berliner with a cell phone and a selfie-stick reading this?

[taly001]

i would like to see some of the major planes to be added for the pacific rather than odd balls...in order

1.P-38G essential mid pacific
2.Ki-48 useful JAAF Lbomber and Dbomber 1,900 made served 41-45
3.Ki-51 JAAF version of Val 2,300 made!
4.Ki-44 served 41-45 high speed JAAF fighter! 1,200 made
5.D4Y replaced Val in JNAF unreliable, but a fast Kamikaze!
6.SB2C meant to replace SBD but not that popular

[taly001]

The official plane i miss most is P-38G the version that made its reputation in Pacific but served "everywhere".

A Ki-48-II would be interesting multi-role plane, fast light bomber with dive bombing capability. Used everywhere by JAAF from 42 on, and a kamikaze mod in 44-45.

Ki-44-II fast japanese interceptor that served throughout 1942-45. 2x12.7mm in nose, and wings choice of 2x12.7mm or 2x40mm "mortar cannon".

[Orangeman]

Ki-44 would be awesome

Originally Posted by taly001

The official plane i miss most is P-38G the version that made its reputation in Pacific but served "everywhere".

A Ki-48-II would be interesting multi-role plane, fast light bomber with dive bombing capability. Used everywhere by JAAF from 42 on, and a kamikaze mod in 44-45.

Ki-44-II fast japanese interceptor that served throughout 1942-45. 2x12.7mm in nose, and wings choice of 2x12.7mm or 2x40mm "mortar cannon".