More twin Engine flyables in IL-2 1946

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

Beaufighter MK.VIC: modified cockpit + small external changes to Mk21

And gunner/navigator position... I like almost everything in Beau except my inability to watch my six.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by dimlee

And gunner/navigator position... I like almost everything in Beau except my inability to watch my six.

Although it would be sort of fun for multiplayer, If AI gunners actually did their job, then you wouldn't even need the Beaufighte's navigator station.

Proper work by gunners would be calls like:

"[One/two/three/multiple] [bogies (AKA unknown planes)/bandits (AKA hostile planes/fighters/bombers] [inbound/outbound/holding station] at [1-12 o'clock] [low/level/high] [top/belly/tail/nose/right waist/left waist gunner catch him/them as he/they pass.]

Consistently calling out advice like: Break [left/right]/Dive/Climb.

Giving position reports for hostile/unknown/friendlies when asked.

Ignoring bandits/bogies beyond a certain range, as well as bandits/bogies in the pilot's field of view, so you don't get repeated calls of "fighters, 12 o'clock" for a formation of fighters miles away and miles above which aren't likely to be part of any combat.

[Marabekm]

I know certain gunners used to call away to break right or left. I think it was SBD, but don't believe they still do.

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

I know certain gunners used to call away to break right or left. I think it was SBD, but don't believe they still do.

I heard it on Il-2 but rarely. Probably on Bf-110 as well.

[Wiesel]

It would be nice to see two or three new versions of the Bf-110.
After all, it was one of the most famous airplanes of Germany during WW2 and just to the outbreak of war a feared weapon.
Maybe some more earlier versions?
Also, a Ju-88 C would be very nice.
Well, there are so many planes are still missing, but I'm hoping for the Bf-110.

Great Work TD!

[dimlee]

Just quickly draw a list: model - times mentioned in this thread.
I could miss some planes, of course.

A-20C lend lease 3
A-20G-20-DO 1
A-20G1 4
A-20H 4
B-25C 5
B-25D 1
B-25G 2
B-25H 2
B-25J field mode 4
Beaufighter Mk X 1
Beaufighter MK.VIC 1
Beaufighter MkIc 1
Bf 110B-1 1
Bf 110B-2 1
Bf 110B-3 1
Bf-110C-1 3
Bf-110C-3 2
Bf-110C-7 2
Bf-110C-4 4
Bf-110D-2 1
Bf-110E-1 1
Bf-110F-2 2
Bf-110G-4 2
Blenheim Mk I 1
Blenheim Mk IV 1
Boston IIIa 1
Defiant 1
Defiant Mk.II 1
Do-217K/M 1
He-111 4
Ju-188 2
Ju-88A-14 1
Ju-88C-6 3
Me-210 6
Me-410 4
Mosquito F Mk.II 1
P-38D 1
P-38E 1
P-38H 2
P-61 1

[dimlee]

By the way... What about Japanese twin engine crafts.
My favorites:
Ki-46-II
Ki-46-III
Ki-46-III-Kai
Ki-46-IIIb

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by dimlee

Just quickly draw a list: model - times mentioned in this thread.

Another good way to measure desire for planes that aren't in the game is to go to Mission 4 Today and check to see which "hack" skins are most popular. For example, A-20C or Ki-21 as Douglas Maryland or Baltimore, H8K "Emily" as Short Sunderland.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by dimlee

I heard it on Il-2 but rarely. Probably on Bf-110 as well.

You hear it very occasionally. Officially, it's in all the voice packs.

Practically, it seems that very few multi-crew planes have gunners who will speak to you. The IL-2, SBD, and the Bf-110 have it, other multi-crew planes don't seem to have it. It must be something that has to be coded into the AI for each plane.

But, having a "talkative" gunner is a mixed blessing. Often their calls to break left or right are wrong, and more often than not you get the "What are you doing!" gunner freak out, which is just annoying. (After all, you're in command of the damned plane, so you should be able to tell the gunner to put up and shut up or else.)

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Although it would be sort of fun for multiplayer, If AI gunners actually did their job, then you wouldn't even need the Beaufighte's navigator station.

Proper work by gunners would be calls like:

"[One/two/three/multiple] [bogies (AKA unknown planes)/bandits (AKA hostile planes/fighters/bombers] [inbound/outbound/holding station] at [1-12 o'clock] [low/level/high] [top/belly/tail/nose/right waist/left waist gunner catch him/them as he/they pass.]

Consistently calling out advice like: Break [left/right]/Dive/Climb.

Giving position reports for hostile/unknown/friendlies when asked.

Ignoring bandits/bogies beyond a certain range, as well as bandits/bogies in the pilot's field of view, so you don't get repeated calls of "fighters, 12 o'clock" for a formation of fighters miles away and miles above which aren't likely to be part of any combat.

Absolutely agree. With some rough distance, as " far away" or panick call "very close!".
But hey, I still need this navigator cockpit for Beau. At least in order not to feel lonely during long flights over Pacific or Med waters.