A very bad learning tool.....

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

I found that I was better at turning, dog-fighting, energy management, and shooting than all but a handful of the very best pilots on that full-switch server;

Yea, it would make sense that somebody doing something for a short time would be better at it than those who had done it for years, that is just the way the world works.

I am sure we would all like to see the stat page for this full-switch server you are at the top of......thanks in advance!

[KG26_Alpha]

The simmers will "out sim" themselves and we will be left with the gamers still having fun gaming.

I can do both quite well but I fly CooPs mostly in "non serious mode" we all have fun on TS and lots of friendly banter is thrown around.

Take your game how you like it, that's why the different settings are there.

But......

If you are a stats monger and hunt single handedly with no wingman on a df server then your gaming the game no matter how you dress it up.

IMHO

[sniperton]

Alpha, is there a way to make icon settings (as described in #33) default? I mean an auto-loading script instead of typing every time in console. Thanks

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by sniperton

Alpha, is there a way to make icon settings (as described in #33) default? I mean an auto-loading script instead of typing every time in console. Thanks

Are you running a dedicated server ?

If you are IL2 SC or FBDj can set the icons for the dedicated server.

If you are launching the standard client IL2 1946 v4.12.2 there's a icon set up in the gui
Setup>misc>Icons>

Or you can use the RCU file in the root directory and load preset icon ranges for different mission types.
You will have to enter them manually.


EG:

@a ddot dot DEFAULT

@a t1 mp_dotrange FRIENDLY DOT 15 COLOR 0.75 TYPE 0.5 ID 0.5 NAME 1.5
@a t2 mp_dotrange FOE DOT 15 COLOR 0.75 TYPE 1.0 ID 0.5 NAME 0.50


@a fdot dot FRIENDLY DOT 15 TYPE 2 COLOR 1.5 NAME 1.5 RANGE 0.5 ID 0.01
@a edot dot FOE DOT 15 TYPE 0.31 COLOR 0.31 RANGE 0.31 ID 0.2

@a 11 mp_dotrange FOE DOT 14 TYPE 2.0 COLOR 0.001 NAME 0.1 ID 0.001 RANGE 0.001
@a 22 mp_dotrange FRIENDLY DOT 14 TYPE 2.0 COLOR 0.001 NAME 5.0 ID 0.001 RANGE 0.001


@a i1 mp_dotrange FRIENDLY DOT 25.0 COLOR 0.1 RANGE 0.1 TYPE 1.0 ID 0.1 NAME 0.1 ALTICON
2.5 ALTSYMBOL + ALTCOLOR 3

@a i2 mp_dotrange FOE DOT 25.0 COLOR 0.1 RANGE 0.1 TYPE 1.0 ID 0.1 NAME 0.1 ALTICON
2.5 ALTSYMBOL + ALTCOLOR 3


For automatically setting the icons:

First you create a new file in your IL2 directory called icons.rcu
(create it in notepad and ensure it doesn't end up with a .txt suffix)
and enter your mp_dotrange commands inside.
Here is an example:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">mp_dotrange FRIENDLY DOT 15.000 COLOR 0.005 RANGE 0.005 TYPE 6.000 ID 0.005 NAME 0.005
mp_dotrange FOE DOT 15.000 COLOR 0.500 RANGE 0.005 TYPE 6.000 ID 0.005 NAME 0.005
timeout 60000 file icons.rcu</pre>

The last line makes the file reload roughly every 60 seconds.

Then you add this line to the end of your rcu file:

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">@file icons.rcu</pre>

So now every time you start a mission your preferred icon settings are applied automatically.

[sniperton]

Thanks, Alpha, much appreciated, but I'd like to set it for offline training. Is it doable?

Edit: Found the answer here (a very informative thread): http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3496755/2

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

Yea, it would make sense that somebody doing something for a short time would be better at it than those who had done it for years, that is just the way the world works.

I am sure we would all like to see the stat page for this full-switch server you are at the top of......thanks in advance!

Who said I was doing it for a short time? I've been flying on various servers for years, on full-switch servers for the past year or so. Anyways, it's not about how long, but how often. On a crowded air-start easy setting server you can get into a fight every other minute or so. On the full-switch server I fly it takes 5-10 minutes just to takeoff and go to the target area, more if you also want to enter with good altitude and from an unexpected angle, and then you're not guaranteed to meet anyone there either.

I try not to obsess about my stats too much, so they're not that impressive; I fly fighters, bombers, ground attack, bomber support, help out team-mates in bad positions, etc, I take my lumps. But when I encounter an enemy on roughly even terms or at a small disadvantage I either win or successfully disengage nine times out of ten.

Here's my stats from when I started flying full-switch and flew the red site on Frontove Nebo, lost more than won initially, 50/50 more recently: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/wars?pilotid=45174

Switched to blue the last couple of months. Even though I rarely fly and don't know German planes that well, last war the only person to shoot me down was the top red pilot: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/wars?pilotid=46333. A 2.33 kill/death ratio in the most recent war (albeit a small sample), not bad seeing that only a third of those sorties were in a good fighter (109F4) while the rest were in bombers and older fighter planes: http://www.il2.org.ru/war/pilot/plan...&pilotid=46333. For comparison, your current ratio on Vinny Puh where you fly the 109G2 most of the time and fighters all of the time is about 0.7: http://212.192.155.118/index.php?nav...820/index.html.

I do alright despite all my really bad learning tools.

[RPS69]

Lol!!!

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Who said I was doing it for a short time? I've been flying on various servers for years, on full-switch servers for the past year or so..

And if you have been flying for "years", whatever that means and only worked your way up to full switch in the last year or so, it sort of proves my point, as if you had flown full switch from the start with your heavy schedule it would have only taken you weeks or months instead. That is why easy servers are as the title of this thread stated, "a very bad learning tool" for flying realistic settings compared to actually flying on realistic settings. You are the one who is proving the original point of this thread.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

And if you have been flying for "years", whatever that means and only worked your way up to full switch in the last year or so, it sort of proves my point, as if you had flown full switch from the start with your heavy schedule it would have only taken you weeks or months instead. That is why easy servers are as the title of this thread stated, "a very bad learning tool" for flying realistic settings compared to actually flying on realistic settings. You are the one who is proving the original point of this thread.

Years means years, what do you think it means? More than one, less than the 14 that this game has been out.

You think it could take anyone just "weeks or months" even to be regularly able to score more often than die in a full switch server? I haven't met anyone like that, not on the servers, nor anyone claiming that on any IL2 forums.

I get what you're saying, there are bad habits you can pick up in an easy setting server. I felt very claustrophobic the first time I flew online with my nose and cockpit blocking 60% of my view and with the F6 button not working. But those habits are easier to break than you make them out to be. On the other hand maneuvering, energy management, and most gunnery and tactics can be learned on the easier servers and those skills carry over to closed pit.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Woke Up Dead

Years means years, what do you think it means? More than one, less than the 14 that this game has been out.

You think it could take anyone just "weeks or months" even to be regularly able to score more often than die in a full switch server? I haven't met anyone like that,

I don't have to speak in generalities when I talk about myself because I have nothing to hide. I have been flying IL2 on realistic settings since 2001. I have also flown easy and normal settings server for many, many hours in the same time period so I have seen first hand what other pilots have been able, and not been able to do in that time period.

When your argument is simply "I haven't met anyone like that", then you have no argument at all because you have been flying realistic settings for less than one-tenth the time some have been flying them, and you were not flying those settings seven years ago when the most popular server with Realistic settings had over 1600 different pilots on it every single month.

Since MODS and HACKS divided the online community and destroyed the popularity and appeal of it, unfortunately no newer IL2 pilots will ever be able to have the experience that the golden-age of IL2 offered again. Sad....