4.12.2 de-bugging

[ElAurens]

The A 20 and B 25 versions with guns in the nose are pure ground attack aircraft, they have no bombardier, hence they won't, and should not, level bomb.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

The A 20 and B 25 versions with guns in the nose are pure ground attack aircraft, they have no bombardier, hence they won't, and should not, level bomb.

I don't know... the A-20G even without a bombardier worked with glass nosed A-20Js in mixed formations for level bombing. The A-20C has nose guns but does have a bombing station as does the B-25J which could perform as either.

The suggestion I made years ago is to add an options dialogue/AI switch to the GATTACK waypoints where you can specify the type of attack you want. This could go into more detail like telling IL-2s to perform the "wheel of death" or tell Corsairs to make a "one and done" all out bombs and rocket attack or convince the Ju88s to use either a level bomb, straight down dive bomb, or angled (Stuvi-assisted) attack.

Probably easier to conceptualize than it is to build in the AI routines.

[Vendigo]

Originally Posted by IceFire

the A-20G even without a bombardier worked with glass nosed A-20Js in mixed formations for level bombing. The A-20C has nose guns but does have a bombing station as does the B-25J which could perform as either.

That's my point and I remember in old version I could choose strafing type of attack by assigning a stationary ground target for GATTACK waypoint or I could choose level bombing by simply placing a GATTACK waypoint over the targeted area but without a specific ground target assigned.
Such option is not available now, could it be brought back?

I also think that it would be helpful if mission builders where able to set attack routine for dive bombers like Stuka and Val - either just drop bombs and head for home or drop bombs and then strafe ground targets with guns.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Vendigo

That's my point and I remember in old version I could choose strafing type of attack by assigning a stationary ground target for GATTACK waypoint or I could choose level bombing by simply placing a GATTACK waypoint over the targeted area but without a specific ground target assigned.
Such option is not available now, could it be brought back?

I also think that it would be helpful if mission builders where able to set attack routine for dive bombers like Stuka and Val - either just drop bombs and head for home or drop bombs and then strafe ground targets with guns.

There was a slight behavior change between GATTACK with a set target and without a set target but the A-20G would still go down to strafe since day 1. That's been a pet peeve of mine for a while.

[KG26_Alpha]

B25 become fighters, and many multi engines bombers seem to have the AI characteristics of twin engined fighters.

Makes the mission a bit strange having B25 attacking enemy fighters low level after they have level bombed a target at high altitude.

[Janosch]

For all A6M5b Zero and later types, when you pick IJN or IJA as the airforce, having markings ON draws some extra clutter on the left side of fuselage. Right side is normal, they don't appear there. I have highlighted the "smudges":

They seem to be some number graphics that have gotten "lost", as they're the same colour as the fuselage number. I'm currently using vanilla 4.12.2m without any jsgme shenanigans, but I'm not 100% sure if it's my install. But is not fatal bug.

Also, the Luftwaffe Do-335 rudder number (when markings are on, of course) on the left side is drawn a bit too close to the leading edge, so it's drawn only partially.

[Baddington_VA]

B25 become fighters, and many multi engines bombers seem to have the AI characteristics of twin engined fighters.

Makes the mission a bit strange having B25 attacking enemy fighters low level after they have level bombed a target at high altitude.

I have seen that done by Ju88 A4s back in the original IL2.
I have recently found myself being chased by AI B25s and even AI Ju88A17s in IL21946.
Maybe it's not such a bad thing.