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03-14-2009, 11:29 PM
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I never played IL2 on a PC without internet connection and I only flew a few hours offline anyway.
So, no loss for me on either side, compared to most other games I have, especially to IL2. @flyingbullseye If you apply a NoCD-Patch, you didn't pirate the game, you just violated the EULA by modifying protected code. Downloading the game is a crime, though, no matter if you own the rights to have a legal copy. (Noticed the term "have a legal copy"? - A downloaded and/or cracked version is not a legal copy in any regard). Depending on the means you download it with, you also give other people access to the file or parts of the file, which is another illegal act. To the demo-thing: Since ROF will be a STEAM-release, you can be 99,9% sure that the demo will be released via STEAM, too, just like most other games (most recently Empire:Total War). If you don't want STEAM, there's probably no way to even test the game. Last edited by Feuerfalke; 03-14-2009 at 11:36 PM. 
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03-15-2009, 12:19 AM
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03-15-2009, 12:35 AM
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bad, but not terrible
I think they have good intentions for going with the online thing and they arent really out to get you. At the end of the day, no one wants their stuff stolen, especially something that took years to make. So i dont fault them for wanting to protect their stuff.
However, I want to play my game when ever I want to. I dont want someone telling me when/where/how i can play it. for me, thats the most important factor in all of this. steam isnt bad. if youre worried about people spying on your activities through the internet, dont worry, they already do! If you have a cell phone, "they" can triangulate your position to with in 500m or so as long as its on. Your tivo spies on you. every webpage you visit spies on you. (think about your online banking as your service provider routes all of your internet usage) As long as you use "their" products, "they" will spy on you. i hope i havent made any of you paranoid folks more paranoid than you already are!
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03-15-2009, 01:15 AM
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03-15-2009, 01:44 AM
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Sky is falling again eh? Haven't had a good one of those in a long time.
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03-15-2009, 01:45 AM
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silly idea to try and force people to be online, i wont buy it either
there are a few other software programs that after purchasing need to be activated online when you install it, and then again be online each time you want to use them, i never bought any of those programs either and chose instead whatever competing program existed. it's just not a convenient way to use them. what they seem to forget is that even when people have a pc, that doesnt mean they have access to reliable broadband 100% of the time as well. for ex kids taking a laptop with them when staying with relatives, adults traveling for work or going to the beach house, limited net access at home where bw is limited or only in one room (so parents can supervise what kids do on the web etc.). there is also a personal privacy and big brother issue here, do you really want some company (which hasnt published its privacy regulations, and isnt accountable to anybody if they break it) to be constantly aware of your gaming activity pattern on a day to day basis ? we already have camera's in the street, shopping patterns being tracked when you use a credit card etc... why add more to that just to play a silly game when its not needed for the customer who already bought the product ?
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03-15-2009, 08:02 AM
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Why would one "not want" it ?? Why is it looked at as the pest ? Is it acting as a kind of malware ? PS: yes, I'm reading their website... Last edited by _ITAF_UgoRipley; 03-15-2009 at 09:05 AM.
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03-15-2009, 10:32 AM
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Required online connection is not problem for me at all. My gaming computer always has it.
I play using HOTAS and pedals, so I don't imagine myself taking all that stuff together with my laptop on any trip. I can fly without HOTAS, but not without pedals. I leave simulators for my stationary computer and play chess, checkers, go, solitaire and alike on my laptop. Also, multiplayer mode is essential for me as I don't fly offline. It is boring for me to fight AI and I always find novice human pilot to be more interesting than high level bot. In fact I won't not buy any combat flight sim, which has no multiplayer mode. I think it is obvious, for what I have voted. 
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03-16-2009, 12:23 PM
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I feel exactly the same way Zaltys. I'm not a big fan of STEAM (sort of turned me off of HL2 as well) and I don't like the "idea" of online verification software being mandatory...but I doubt it will stop me from buying it. What will stop me from playing it though will be if there is ultimately a very small online community, limited 3rd party involvement (mostly in the form of forums and information exchange) as a result and questionable content. It seems most of the community is pleased with most of the content we've been shown so far (no-man's land and the trenches could use a bit of polishing IMO) and it would be a shame if such a positive thing as what RoF has heretofor promised is allowed to kind of wither away due to such a thing as copy protection implementation. The same thing happened to a degree with LOMAC. Hopefully, there is an acceptable middle ground somewhere.
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