Oh noooo! My Thrustmaster Cougar is history!

[engadin]

Well HaVoK, there is nothing wrong about FFB right now, but as anything in life it is suitable to be improved and this is the very case. If this reason is not enough for you, Oleg is very far from being an FFB enthusiast from the beginning, and from my PoV this is a nice chance to change his mind towards this very inmersive (isn't it?) feature. And if that finally happens, for you and me that would be very good news.

And it's just a matter of what sort of sense of humour you have. I find it funny, Absolute - who, by the way, was around from the very first milisecond, so this is not the point at all - finds it funny as well. But you don't. OK. We enjoy it, you don't. OK. Read it the way you want, but you cannot deny humour helps to enjoy the painful wait till SOW is out. And it is painful for us because we are around from the first whisper of the existence of the project SoW. Perhaps you don't feel it would be nicer if we all already had SoW in our shelves, because we feel, as thousands of other people in the Il-2 community, the wait is lasting way too long.

engadin.

[robtek]

Yes, FFB adds immensely to the immersion; yes, that project looks great; BUT if the forces are coming close to reality every guy with a regular stick will outturn you in a dogfight.
Imagine that you are sweating from fighting the stick in a turning fight and youve reached finally the position to shoot... only to find your aim spoiled by the stall buffing of your stick.
As i said: the immersion would be great but the advantage goes to the opponent with the regular stick.

[Viking]

Well what it boils down to is whether you are a simmer or a gamer.
The gamer will chose the setting that will enable him (or her) to make the most kill-points and the simmer will chose the setting that will simulates, as close as is possible by hard- and software, the real life experience, be it negative or positive to the scores.