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Old 01-13-2009, 12:54 PM
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Sure ...

Here is my DXDIAG.

Basic current system:
CPU: E8400
MB: GIGABYTE GA-X48-DQ6 DDR2
Mem: G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000 (Running 800 1:1 4-4-4-12 2.1v)
PS: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
DVDR: SAMSUNG DVD±R SH-S203B
HD1: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB
HD2: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB
OP: SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B
Case: P182
HS: Thermalright Ultra-120
Fans: 5 x 120mm S-Flex Scythe
TC: Arctic Silver 5
Vid: EVGA 9800GX2
Sound: X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
OS: Vista64/XP

The real culprit is HardwareShaders=1 because even at Water=0 or 1 I get some stutters, although better than 2-4. Shaders off is the only way I can get rid of them completely.

Thanks for the help!

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Old 01-13-2009, 04:52 PM
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Try these conf ini settings, don't forget to back up your original:

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=3
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0
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Old 01-13-2009, 05:38 PM
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Yeah, those settings are what I am already trying. I've tried tweaking everything I can think of and still always the same stutters with HardwareShaders=1, if I make that 0, it runs with no stutters.
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Old 01-13-2009, 07:00 PM
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What is the setup of anyone who is able to run the game with no stutters? Just make a Crimea quick battle and fly around the coast and I'll get these periodic little "ticks". The higher the water # the more consistent they appear.

I know the game will hitch once and a while like all games do, texture buffering and such things but this is definitly not just that because it is just related to the water and the shaders.

It would be just awesome to find a real fix!
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:47 PM
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I'm not familiar with nVidia cards but there is a common issue with multi GPU cards (both ATI and nVidia) causing stutters in IL-2. I suspect this may be the culprit, try lowering the AA down to 2x in the video card drivers, this fixed the problem on my 4870x2.

A more general stutter issue I had relates to drives. It is also recomended on Gigabyte boards to use the Intel ACHI drive controller rather than the Gigabyte one. I'm assuming all your drives are SATA so connect them to the Yellow sockets, make sure you have ACHI enabled in the BIOS and have the Intel INF drivers installed v8.3.1.1011.

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:02 PM
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I even turned everything down and off in my driver settings. No Aniso, No AA, Only High Quality, No triple buffer, no vsync etc... As well as setting to just 1 GPU and it still stutters. Only shaders off will make them go away.

Yeah I just defraged and both drivers are SATA, and ACHI is enabled. I would think this kind of pause would not be so effected by Shaders on or off.

Can you really fly around in perfect mode near a shoreline and get no stutters or little 150ms ticks at all? That is just amazing. I've tried the game on so many different systems and configurations and I've never been able to get rid of it.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:09 PM
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Another quick test is to run the F4UTT track and watch in the first few scenes as the planes fly over the trees. I always get a stutter here if I have Shaders on.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:29 PM
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Core 2 Duo E6850
2GB of RAM
GeForce 8600GTS

My video card isn't quite up to snuff but aside from a couple of drops in framerate I can fly around all of the Crimea map with no stutters at all.

Make sure you do three things:

1) In the nVidia control panel make sure that your IL-2 profile is setup to have "Threaded Optimization Off".

2) Also in the control panel for your IL-2 profile turn VSync off.

3) Get the latest DLL's from this thread: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...highlight=DLLs There are several variations so I'm not 100% sure on which you should use but be sure to ALWAYS BACKUP YOUR CURRENT FILES before you install the new ones.

I had microstutter problems on account of the nVidia card and the dual core system. Aside from that...very few performance issues.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:04 PM
JG27CaptStubing JG27CaptStubing is offline
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Ahhh I bet I know your problem... 9800X2... says a lot.

Make sure you're NOT using Alternate Frame Rendering for IL2 it should be Single Frame Rendering.

I use nHancer 2.4.2 to force this setting for SLI. Your card is basically running in SLI even though its a single card.
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:25 PM
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I have built over 6 completely new systems during the past years using the IL2 1.0 through current 1946, patched 4.09

No stutters

Think about it. If you have built and used several systems and all of them have done the same or similar things. Take a hard look at your hardware, and peripherals. Especially any hardware item/s that you have used on all those systems.

Soundcards and acceleration were a big bugaboo for a long time. I haven't used a standalone sound card in the past three systems I've built.
I use the mobo onboard sound, and haven't had problems.

We have all had some types of issues with each system upgrade, and often IL2 addons and patches. We work through the issues and move on.

I've had powersupply issues as well. I moved up to 750Watt last system upgrade, 7 onboard fans, 3 additional fans on the mobo, 1 fan on the Videocard 8800 GTX OC

What I'm saying.. you may think you've done everything, but you'd be surprised sometimes just how far you have to go with hardware upgrades. Changing one thing can bum the works.

You can still get good tech help on Ubiforums Community help http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/49310655

good luck

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