Oleg Maddox's Room #1

[Antoninus]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Oleg + 1C team

Have you re-thought for BoB SoW the unrealistic way IL2 1946 has ended up with the Hollywood style exploding aircraft, wings getting cut off and aircraft cut in half.

I remember IL2 when you shot a plane small bits fell off it and it lost control then went in, If I remember it was around the v4.?? that the "Hollywood Effect" appeared.

I hope this has been removed for BoB SoW.

Planes could already break apart or explode in Il-2 and FB 1.0 and it could happen in RL as well. Besides your gunnery skills the frequency mainly depends on the caliber of your weapons. Use machineguns and you won't see structural failures or explosions as often as when using 30 mm cannons with exploding shells, which are arguable overmodeled. I've not noticed any change during the games evolution.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Antoninus

Planes could already break apart or explode in Il-2 and FB 1.0 and it could happen in RL as well. Besides your gunnery skills the frequency mainly depends on the caliber of your weapons. Use machineguns and you won't see structural failures or explosions as often as when using 30 mm cannons with exploding shells, which are arguable overmodeled. I've not noticed any change during the games evolution.

You are kidding right ??

There were never exploding planes in the original Sturmovik you mention v1.0 like there are in IL2 1946.

IL2's used to fall apart from FW190 20mm back then but not this silly damage modelling we have in IL2 1946 with aircraft exploding into millions of pieces.

[Antoninus]

Il-2 demo 2, ca. early 2002

Crimea map, Fw-190 A5 default armament

Plane exploding, plown into a million pieces:




aircraft cut in half:




wings getting cut off:

[KG26_Alpha]

Yes the IL2 exploded back then after a heavy pounding from a FW.

And I remember the chewing up of ac rudders and elevators with the propeller too if you ran out of ammo.

But there's a difference in IL2 1946 with exploding aircraft from the early sim, they explode too easily and unrealistically.

[AdMan]

well here's some slo-mo footage from the BoP demo that shows the "too small" explosions I talked about before - I know the demo isn't final but what is shown here leaves much to be desired




lets hope a different approach is being taken for BoB

[AdMan]

any aircraft could explode but I would have to agree the instant incineration effect isn't very realistic and kinda "hollywood" or what I would simply consider as videogame-like

as far as tail sections and wings being shot off that happened a lot, especially tail sections

[Antoninus]

Well BoP is a videogame for the console market, thus I am not surprised to find videogame-like behaviour. Oleg has said that he is not directly involved, BoP is no preview for BOB.

Multiple SOW development screenshots have shown that the internal structure will me modelled in great detail. I think we can surely expect a very detailed and realistic damage model, not something like X hits and boom.

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...t=cap002-1.jpg
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nShots_002.jpg
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...nShots_001.jpg
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...Hurry_dam3.jpg

[Abbeville-Boy]

oleg, you still plan for sow forum, when you announced, it seemed so close to being up and running in a week

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by Abbeville-Boy

oleg, you still plan for sow forum, when you announced, it seemed so close to being up and running in a week

Yeah this forum is getting a bit stale.
For a 2009 release nothing is happening fast.
Not trying to point fingers but Rise of Flight have screenshots, ingame footage and a hell of a lot more and they say they are good to go early 2009.
Last update we had here was system specs May 2009 and Q4 release.
If that were true ingame footage should be available by now, or at least closed beta announced.
What do we have?
A lot of nothing.
Guess it is time to reset the clock to May 2010 specs release and 2010 Q4 release...

[Darbo]

well ive been waiting for bob forever
and holding back my upgrade for it
my pentum 3 600 is crying to die
so im saving for some ddr10 memory for when its released


oh and hi oleg n guys
when the games ready for beta if i make you a crisp butty can i be a beta tester