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Old 01-19-2014, 08:40 AM
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I'm terribly sorry to hear that the TF4.0 patch does not meet your expectations. Team Fusion will of course provide you with a full refund of your purchase price for this patch. Please get in touch with your contact details & let us know how much you paid for the patch.

In the meantime, as compensation for your inconvenience, we'd like to offer you free complimentary copies of our TF3.0 patch and the TF3.01 mini-patch. You can find links to download your free offer HERE.

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Thankyou! Sarcasm is such fun. In the same spirit of irony ....

I would like refund the weekend I spent about ten hours with patch 4.0 and ruin a campaign I have playing up to mission 20 for weeks, because of lawndarts, before someone realises a problem.

Back to serious...

I think it takes TF time to realise you have to test as much for offline as online. Hotfixes for both TF patches have been need because of things broken but not seen in offline game. So in the past, you don't test enough. That is clear. In patch 3 it was mission builder problem, and wings falling off bombers, in patch 4 lawndarts.

Now I would be happy if the delay to fix lawndarts was because you are doing much testing.

But no, that work is done you say. The delay is all the other stuff. So I wait for fixed lawndarts, so other stuff can be cram into the hotfix.

Oh well. I am a patient one. But you should know, while I wait, you are losing players who are not so patient and go away forever. This cannot be what TF want.

Or?

So my advice...

A) fix what is broken. Quickly. Like you done on 3.01
B) then bring other 'stuff'

And do not smart talk to your fans even if they annoy you. It is not sympathetic and makes TF a bad image.

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Old 01-19-2014, 09:27 AM
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the 3.0 patch was pretty good so just pretend you never met the 4 ...and just enjoy for a little while longer the 3 to have a good AI
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:25 AM
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Thankyou! Sarcasm is such fun. In the same spirit of irony ....

I would like refund the weekend I spent about ten hours with patch 4.0 and ruin a campaign I have playing up to mission 20 for weeks, because of lawndarts, before someone realises a problem.

Back to serious...

I think it takes TF time to realise you have to test as much for offline as online. Hotfixes for both TF patches have been need because of things broken but not seen in offline game. So in the past, you don't test enough. That is clear. In patch 3 it was mission builder problem, and wings falling off bombers, in patch 4 lawndarts.

Now I would be happy if the delay to fix lawndarts was because you are doing much testing.

But no, that work is done you say. The delay is all the other stuff. So I wait for fixed lawndarts, so other stuff can be cram into the hotfix.

Oh well. I am a patient one. But you should know, while I wait, you are losing players who are not so patient and go away forever. This cannot be what TF want.

Or?

So my advice...

A) fix what is broken. Quickly. Like you done on 3.01
B) then bring other 'stuff'

And do not smart talk to your fans even if they annoy you. It is not sympathetic and makes TF a bad image.

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Revert your game to 3.01 & your problem goes away. Our volunteer beta testers are testing 4.01 right now, they test online & offline play. You too can be a beta tester, just go to the ATAG forum & send TF a PM & you can participate in the testing & help overcome potential issues.
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:21 PM
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You too can be a beta tester, just go to the ATAG forum & send TF a PM & you can participate in the testing & help overcome potential issues.
You should really do this, planespotter. Critical testers are always a help!

And I am serious about this, btw.
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From the mods thread. Mystic Puma's post with info and video on upcoming patch:

"TF 4.0 had AI elevators modeled with the modified high speed changes which were developed for more realism with player controlled aircraft. Because of the fact the AI were not able to cope with those changes and lawndarting became completely overdone, we have therefore reverted the TF 4.01 AI elevator control back to vanilla. This will see the Ai less likely to Lawndart."
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:16 PM
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So AI will be able to pull off high speed manoeuvres impossible for human player again? Uh... either lawndarts or unrealistic AI turning performance. Damned if you do, damned if you don't! Not a great solution of the problem, but the only "quickfix" we can have at the moment, I guess.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:24 PM
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Default And now for some GOOD news!

Yes, serious good news... dare not say worth all the waiting, but this will make some fantastic play when the new 4.01 finally is released. Almost so much content my head explode!

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...r_#Post3898207

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that is good news...are you a beta tester now as well ?
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Old 01-20-2014, 02:25 PM
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So AI will be able to pull off high speed manoeuvres impossible for human player again? Uh... either lawndarts or unrealistic AI turning performance. Damned if you do, damned if you don't! Not a great solution of the problem, but the only "quickfix" we can have at the moment, I guess.
After 4 or possible more months of waiting we will get a typical case of "disimprovement", referred to as "quickfix" ;) Marvellous.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:14 PM
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Ungratefulness has no limits, it seems!!!
Those people at TF aren't working for anybody but themselfes!!!
They have absolutely no obligation to anybody but their teammembers.

Don't ask what TF can do for you, ask what you can do for TF!
That way is better for everyone!

And if 4.01 would never come, CoD is still way better now for most of the people as the stock game!
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