Will there be an online community for COD after BOS?

SlipBall · #1 01-09-2014, 07:42 AM

definitely worth another try, the community that remains is very kicked back and mellow

Rickusty · #2 01-09-2014, 07:48 PM

yeah, as the other friends have said..
those who remained here are the "true believers" in some ways...

Team Fusion mod is a MUST though... it literally transforms the game into a gem... you must download it and try some mission online.
It's a blast.

And IMO nothing compares (yet) to the level of authenticity and details CloD has... not many aircraft, but , God, how realistically they are modeled. Cockpits are a work of art, and it really seems you're inside a real plane.
And its DM is the best, hand down.

I truly love this game. It has huge potential... too bad it was not loved much, due to its many faults. But it remains my preferred sim. (and I've been playing since... what? Tornado, the 1993 videogame. By the way, does anybody know this simulator? It was AMAZING...)

I really hope a future mod will create the early clashes in the Mediterranean and around Malta... it would be surely a fantastic occasion to fly in a Cr42 or a Glad over the sea, escorting convoys, hunting for submarines, clashing against torpedo bombers ... (it's great to dream a little bit, isn't it).

Anyway, as previously said, give the Team Fusion's Mod a try... you won't be disappointed.

Cheers

Chivas · #3 01-10-2014, 01:20 AM

There is little doubt that COD will live on for quite sometime. Oleg and Luthier have developed an almost limitless sandbox for a mod teams and mission/campaign builders like Team Fusion to create new features, environments, and aircraft for the online and offline community. The BOS developers say they want to provide a Mod friendly environment, but it remains to be seen how BOS will fair in that regard. Either way I see no conflict, as over the next few years we will be able to fly a couple of different Eastern Front Theaters from the BOS developers, and BOB, probably Malta/N. Africa from COD/Team Fusion.

SlipBall · #4 01-10-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas

There is little doubt that COD will live on for quite sometime. Oleg and Luthier have developed an almost limitless sandbox for a mod teams and mission/campaign builders like Team Fusion to create new features, environments, and aircraft for the online and offline community. The BOS developers say they want to provide a Mod friendly environment, but it remains to be seen how BOS will fair in that regard. Either way I see no conflict, as over the next few years we will be able to fly a couple of different Eastern Front Theaters from the BOS developers, and BOB, probably Malta/N. Africa from COD/Team Fusion.

That's all good, but if people become to comfortable in their various IL-2 sand box's siming advancements could suffer.
We just had a golden opportunity for a flyable B-17, but sadly participation numbers were low.

Chivas · #5 01-12-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall

That's all good, but if people become to comfortable in their various IL-2 sand box's siming advancements could suffer.
We just had a golden opportunity for a flyable B-17, but sadly participation numbers were low.

The advancements will depend on developer/engine capabilities and funding, along with strong mod communities. Sims will become stagnant when development stops, or the community stops supporting the developments, but I don't see that happening any time soon even in this tiny genre, with two development teams, and a strong Mod community. The original IL-2 was a long term success because the development team, and mod community continually added more interesting stuff.

The B17 failed because of the small genre, and the hangover of Luthiers/Olegs long drawnout development of their new highly complex game engine. Today's combat flight sims are so complex, that they take so much more time, and money to develop, while the genre wants it sold cheap, and released yesterday. The complexity of the game play also has a detrimental effect on the number of gamers that want to dedicate the time to learn. Its no wonder that only combat flight sim enthusiast are making these games, while the genre will shat on them at any sign of a setback.

The COD development would have tested anyone patience, but thats what were going to need, unless there is some coding breakthrough that will allow complex game engines, and content to be developed quickly and efficiently. BOS should be OK in this regard as its only developing content for an established game engine. Time will tell how the ROF game engine can be tweaked, and handle WW2 complexities, but so far so good, as they slowly add content. The same holds true with DCS WW2 being developed on an established game engine. Their long term success will depend on how these games handle the amount of aircraft/objects required, offline gameplay, online multi-player gameplay, continued developer support/additional content, and mod community support.

SlipBall · #6 01-12-2014, 06:52 PM

I think CLod development suffered from very tight budgets all along, causing good people to leave the project(rumors..?). That in turn increased the development time, and never quite getting it done. Then releasing it unfinished with a pure bogus, about the minimum system requirements...its always been the money being the problem I think. Tuff business

planespotter · #7 01-13-2014, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas

There is little doubt that COD will live on for quite sometime. Oleg and Luthier have developed an almost limitless sandbox for a mod teams and mission/campaign builders like Team Fusion to create new features, environments, and aircraft for the online and offline community. The BOS developers say they want to provide a Mod friendly environment, but it remains to be seen how BOS will fair in that regard. Either way I see no conflict, as over the next few years we will be able to fly a couple of different Eastern Front Theaters from the BOS developers, and BOB, probably Malta/N. Africa from COD/Team Fusion.

Agree it is good times!

This forum is not very much active anymore, but I do not post much except here, I read a lot what is happening at ATAG, there is much active posting there. MTO is coming for sure, there are the ships and subs already for this theatre, just when.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php

Most at the moment I play Malta Mod for COD, which is good missions, and wait for the correct MTO.

And there is much active on the BOS forum. I have not boght into this alpha, I will wait for beta, but already there are many features and many flying. It is looking with good promise!

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/

Do not forget old IL2! There has just come the new 4.12 from Daidolos which gives the best AI ever the game has had.

The sim world is good and alive and for us who like WWII!

(But I don't mention DCS that one is an origami paper aeroplane who I think will never fly. I am glad I was not so quick to put money on that, if you read how people payed money but did not get the rewards they have promised.)

Chivas · #8 01-14-2014, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by planespotter

Agree it is good times!

This forum is not very much active anymore, but I do not post much except here, I read a lot what is happening at ATAG, there is much active posting there. MTO is coming for sure, there are the ships and subs already for this theatre, just when.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php

Most at the moment I play Malta Mod for COD, which is good missions, and wait for the correct MTO.

And there is much active on the BOS forum. I have not boght into this alpha, I will wait for beta, but already there are many features and many flying. It is looking with good promise!

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/

Do not forget old IL2! There has just come the new 4.12 from Daidolos which gives the best AI ever the game has had.

The sim world is good and alive and for us who like WWII!

(But I don't mention DCS that one is an origami paper aeroplane who I think will never fly. I am glad I was not so quick to put money on that, if you read how people payed money but did not get the rewards they have promised.)

Its too early to tell how DCS WW2 will pan out. The good news is they have already created stuff for DCS, and are only creating more stuff on an established game engine.
Another positive is the new EDGE graphic engine currently being installed in the DCS game engine looks very good. Personally I received my P51 reward almost immediately after kickstarter finished. There definitely appears to be some confusion, on just what rewards, people are entitled too, and Luthier has been characteristically quite thru this process. And as usual his development team are having more than their fair share of setbacks, not to mention the long Russian Christmas/New years break. Hopefully things will get sorted when Luthier gets their website up and running.