Ground attack tips, IL-2 Sturmovik?

[gaunt1]

German flak is the weakest ingame. Try to attack a soviet airfield! Full of 37mm guns, one hit and you are dead. Or an american airfield, their guns are also incredibly effective.

Attacking trains is easy. The first thing you should target, is the flak wagon, the chance of hitting you is low, plus it has weak 20mm guns.
I found attacking ammo trains is far more dangerous, the chain reaction can kill you instantly if you are too close.

Concerning tanks, their damage model is very very simple. In reality, the ShVAK was nearly useless against them. The 23mm was far better, but it shouldnt penetrate the rear of the Pz.III, too thick (usually 50mm). Pz IV was more vulnerable (20mm), but due to the angle at which the aircraft dives on them, they were also resistant. Tigers, Panthers were almost completely invulnerable, only 37mm aircraft guns could harm them.

A great article:
http://operationbarbarossa.net/Myth-...hbusters4.html

[Laurwin]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

German flak is the weakest ingame. Try to attack a soviet airfield! Full of 37mm guns, one hit and you are dead. Or an american airfield, their guns are also incredibly effective.

Attacking trains is easy. The first thing you should target, is the flak wagon, the chance of hitting you is low, plus it has weak 20mm guns.
I found attacking ammo trains is far more dangerous, the chain reaction can kill you instantly if you are too close.

Concerning tanks, their damage model is very very simple. In reality, the ShVAK was nearly useless against them. The 23mm was far better, but it shouldnt penetrate the rear of the Pz.III, too thick (usually 50mm). Pz IV was more vulnerable (20mm), but due to the angle at which the aircraft dives on them, they were also resistant. Tigers, Panthers were almost completely invulnerable, only 37mm aircraft guns could harm them.

A great article:
http://operationbarbarossa.net/Myth-...hbusters4.html

OK, ok I over-reacted a little bit...

indeed, flak trains can be killed nicely when you make multiple attak passes, targeting flak wagons first.

But, airfields are still quite deadly targets IMO, even German airfields. That 20mm Flak ALWAYS TAKES OUT MY FRIKING CONTROLS.

It's much easier to attack flak with more nimble fighter-bombers, compared to slow-ass IL-2 which just gets wrecked by this 20mm flak.

[Jumoschwanz]

AAA can be a tough one. It seems like you are more concerned with the fast firing short range AAA and not the big flak guns for taking down big bombers.

Speed is a big help. Approach the airfield from altitude so you can get some good speed up in a dive. Fly fast and straight at a point away from a AAA gun and turn towards it at the last moment possible and shoot it out, then climb away and set up for the next one.

Bombs or rockets from a greater range or alt always give you a better chance at survival than strafing.

Try not to expose the plane of your wings to the line of fire, keep them a thin profile for the AAA gunner.

I would come in steep and fast from altitude and hit the most troublesome AAA first with bombs. Getting one out of two or three AAA guns out in the first pass exponentially increases your chances of survival on the second and third pass. Having a wingman attacking at the same time also greatly increases your chances as it will divide the AAA resources or distract them.

Usually on the Eastern front the lone IL2 Sturmovik did not fly around solo attacking German airbases. Doing so is not historical, so you will not get historical results.

[DD_crash]

Take a look here for some useful stuff http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL23ABD7CBB962A977

[illegalBeagle]

Attack flak as priority. Also, order friendly AI and your wingman to attack flak. In every il2 attack formation, there should be some aircraft dedicated to flak suppression. You can try coordinating your attacks following friendly AI in the hope that they will draw flak. You could try padlocking a target (flak) and ordering "attack my target" command for highest priority flak targets.