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Old 07-07-2013, 03:23 PM
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Well, for now, I seemed to have found a workaround for my problem. This is what I did.

I took my Missions folder, which has grown quite large after 12 years of missions (254MB) and replaced it with a 'clean' Missions folder from 4.12. That one is only 142MB. As soon as I did that, I could open any Solomons map in the FMB.

I'm not sure why that was an issue, but I tried it on a hunch and it worked...for now anyway. It's an easy workaround for when when I need it. I even tried adding back my more important missions and it's still working (at 203MB now).

Possibly it's some kind of memory issue. As I stated earlier, I don't have this problem with HSFX 6 and for one thing, I know they have made some core changes to IL-2. For instance, the HSFX il2fb.exe is only 156kb, while the stock 4.12 is 4.33MB.

In any event, I think I have it under control for now so we'll see what happens.

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I don't see that as being an issue unless you have other problems as mines nearly a 1 gig in size.


The only people I know online who have problems with the Solomons map, joining a CooP,
were those who had messed up installations or problematic PC's and that's with HSFX 6


If there were any memory leaks there would be more reports of problems with the map IMHO, unless you meant on your PC.
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I wonder if some investigation into performance of your system when it locks up to find the root cause of the problem,
it's strange the HSFX v Stock comparison though as it makes no sense removing a few mission files allows the map to open !!


Good luck.





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Old 07-07-2013, 07:17 PM
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Alpha,

Yea, it's a strange situation. I really shouldn't make any speculations at all because I have no clue what could be causing my issue.

As I stated before, I don't have any 'problems' with Solomons maps/missions. I can play/host any Solomons mission as well as use the Solomons map in the QMB. The only issue I have (had) is actually LOADING a Solomons map/mission into the FMB. This is where my game would freeze before the map would even load. I would need to exit to my desktop and shut down the game from there.

As far as having a 'problematic' computer, I guess that's always a possibility. However, consider the fact that I have no such issues loading Solomoms maps/missions in HSFX 6. As you know, To create a working version of HSFX 6, you need a clean install of 4.11 and then add your HSFX mods/files on top of that. So basically, HSFX 6 is just a souped-up version of 4.11.

Yet, my 'Solomons' issue started with stock 4.11 (and now continues with stock 4.12). Common sense may tell you that a 'problematic' computer would cause this issue to be present in both stock and HSFX versions. However, that is not the case. This is why I keep reporting any findings I come across. Maybe someone can one day come up with an answer.

In my own little world, I'm happy that I have at least found a workaround. A 'workaround' does not mean that the problem has been identified. It's simply a temporary solution to sidestep the problem until it gets correctly identified.

I know I was kind of pointing to the fact that MY Missions folder was so large and maybe that might be a clue. That seemed like a logical assumption, but after looking at YOUR missions folder (which is almost 4 times larger), maybe size can be ruled out. However, maybe there is something in MY Missions folder (but not in YOUR Missions folder) that may be the culprit. Then again, I used the same Missions folder with my HSFX 6 and I had no problems there.....so confusing.

I've run out of things to say, but thanks for at least being concerned.

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Old 07-07-2013, 07:43 PM
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One test would be to move the problematic mission folder to another stable IL2 v4.12 machine and try to break the FMB that way.







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One test would be to move the problematic mission folder to another stable IL2 v4.12 machine and try to break the FMB that way.
Nothing wrong with that test except I really think one greater question needs to be answered first: Why do I have the issue in 4.11 and 4.12 stock and not in HSFX 6 (which is based on 4.11). This is using the same Missions folder on the same computer.

To me, that is where the real answer lies, don't you think?

EDIT: Since I had some time I tried what you suggested. I have an available laptop so I transferred a copy of IL-2 onto that. I ran the game and I have the exact same issue there. I can't load a Solomons map with the FMB using my 'big' Missions folder. When I try loading from a 'clean' 4.12 Missions folder, I can load any Solomons map.

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Old 07-08-2013, 11:49 AM
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Nothing wrong with that test except I really think one greater question needs to be answered first: Why do I have the issue in 4.11 and 4.12 stock and not in HSFX 6 (which is based on 4.11). This is using the same Missions folder on the same computer.

To me, that is where the real answer lies, don't you think?

EDIT: Since I had some time I tried what you suggested. I have an available laptop so I transferred a copy of IL-2 onto that. I ran the game and I have the exact same issue there. I can't load a Solomons map with the FMB using my 'big' Missions folder. When I try loading from a 'clean' 4.12 Missions folder, I can load any Solomons map.

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The question to ask your self is why is it only you having this FMB specific problem ?

Process of elimination would be adding missions from the 250 mb missions folder to the v4.12 directory untill FMB locks up send me the folders to see if it locks up mine also ?

Also

When was
Recent Missions
Introduced to the FMB ?

Maybe some things checking the missions list and getting confused with folder file name extensions in there.

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Old 07-08-2013, 02:21 PM
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But why does it matter when you load a clean map? And is it only Solomons, do all others work fine?
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In the interest of finding the cause of this I have a proposal for finding the cause.

Open Missions folder and rename all the folders inside by adding _TEST to the end of the folder name

Start IL2 4.12 and load Solomon Map in FMB - presumably the map will load and the test can continue.

Then Close IL2 and rename the Campaign_TEST folder back to Campaign and Start IL2 4.12 and load Solomon Map in FMB

If all is well, stop IL2 and rename the Net_TEST folder back to Net and Start IL2 4.12 and load Solomon Map in FMB


ETC. ETC. You get the drift.

Once your game locks up you will know which folder contains the rogue file(s) and the process of elimination can begin inside that folder.

I'll be interested to know any outcome.
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