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03-15-2013, 01:22 PM
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that interesting and funny, only now i saw this page and found what sometimes i just repeated (with help of peoples from many forums/sites, of course) findings and what written in total by Alex Ruchkowsky...
in fact it's good because 2 similar opinions it's very indicative, we on right way... highly recommend to read this page, especially, because it's already on english and no reasons to some my bad translations further, i will only add some information and want to focused on armament/performance... (by the way, in addition to old drawings from 2010 on this site, if DT will do/fix 3d model of laggs, here apparently last and best or one of best - at this moment - drawings for this good deal)... and just for fun, official report about NS-37, plus, attached some pics, on 1 belt with 20 mm shells for yak (i see 1 AP - 1 HE) and apparently, another good confirmation of belting-theory, belt with 23 mm shells for il-2 (i clearly see 3 AP - 1 HE or HEI)... oh, and i remembered about one of, apparently, confirmations of weight of yak-9d as front fighter ie around 2900 kg (310 kg of fuel, around 20 kg of oil), well, here interesting document and description of plane for tests with 2880 kg... 
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#2
03-21-2013, 06:15 PM
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and i heard before that DT interested in la-5, well, he have similar drawings and for la-5 of early series ie la-5 with fuselage of lagg-3 (in game now 3d model of, if i'm not mistaken, la-5 of around 1-4 series, with mixed performance of 1-8,9 and 9,10-xx series), but, apparently, at this moment no full version in one archive... and, in fact, i again highly recommend for all who want know more, see all these pics... 
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#3
03-28-2013, 10:31 PM
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in offline long time i trying to write what found about il-2s, but, oh, this is so hard for one and ordinary guy like me, so, at this time, only about il-2 with 2 ns-37...
performance from compare 4.11 - weight 5732.96 kg (in tests, weight with full load, ie apparently 100 kg of bombs, around 6160 kg), 399 kph at sl (in first, apparently, tests speed around 387-391, but in game it's can be speed of late series) etc, just now personally i don't have full data... weapons - prototype had and was tested with 60 shells for each ns-37, and 200 kg of normal bomb load, serial planes had 50 shells for each ns-37 and 100 kg (normal) or 200 kg (overload) of bomb load, and - apparently - never not had any rockets, and although info about this different, personally i not saw any photos with rockets and think at this moment what planes really not had rockets... ie 2 cannons under wings + more weight = only bombs... so, apparently, loads for il-2 with ns-37 can look like 100 shells in total as default - personally my opinion, repeat, need and different ammobelts - 120 as prototype (for fun), plus something like 2xfab-50, 4xfab-50, 2xfab-100, some light bombs like ao-xx and ptabs=200 kg max... (maybe, DT can do for fun experimental il-2 with ns-45, as new load for il-2 with ns-37 or new plane, if i'm not mistaken, it's easy because plane just had new cannons (although, of course, in ideal need to do and all problems of ns-37/45)... and il-2 with ns-37 never not had wings with "стрелка" (or "крыло стрельчатой конструкции") - постановление ГКО № 4554сс, 13.11.1943, "Об установке на самолетах Ил-2, выпускаемых заводом № 30 НКАП, пушек Волкова-Ярцева калибра 23 мм вместо пушек ОКБ-16 калибра 37 мм" - ie in nov'43 resolution about production of il-2 with vya-23 instead ns-37 because cannon was not really effective by several technical and other reasons... another quote just about стрелка - "Как следует из документов, завод № 18 вышел на плановый уровень производства Ил-2 с металлическим крылом "со стрелкой" лишь к июню, а 1-й и 30-й заводы - к сентябрю 1944 г. Всего к концу года в ВВС поступило 7377 Ил-2 "крыло со стрелкой". При этом авиазаводы № 1 и № 30 выпускали самолеты и с металлическим, и с деревянным крылом. Все самолеты имели "стандартное" для 1944 г. наступательное вооружение: пушки ВЯ, пулеметы ШКАС, "эрэ-сы" и бомбы. Пушки НС-37 на них никогда не устанавливались." etc, although need more information, apparently, could be exeptions or something like this... well, and in very interesting "справочник по самолету ил-2, 1944", which recently was posted here, was confirmed information about 150 rounds for VUB-3 with UBT of il-2 two-seater (in game all il-2s have 200)...
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#4
03-29-2013, 10:36 PM
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in addition to wish with il-2 with ns-45, if..., was tested plane with 100 shells in total...
i wanted to write about this later, in context of yak-7b with m-105pa, laggs'41 etc, but need too much time for all this things, so, i will start it now... well, here we have interesting project, with several documents about VVS which can be very useful and one of most interesting docs at this moment, i think, it's "альбом по дальности и продолжительности полета самолетов" (dated 1943, but, in fact, last plane was tested in end'45)... only some findings - page 11, yak-9 of 155 plant with 4 fuel tanks (673 ltr of fuel) and weight 3035 kg, was tested in july'42... looks like prototype of yak-9/yak-9d ie yak-7d... apparently, it's could be another confirmation of normal weight of yak-9d... page 12 - serial lagg-3 of 153 plant with sn 871 ie apparently 71 plane of 8 serie, 5 fuel tanks (452 ltr) and 3150 kg, was tested in august'42... apparently, it's one of last planes of 153 plant, similar with 7-xx series of 21 plant... and just quote about other lagg-3 of 153 - Quote:
page 22 - serial il-4... well, i'm know about bombers too little, but here in loads i see interesting things like 6 load - 1xfab-1000 + 2xfab-500 + 6xfab-100 = 2600 kg of bombs with limited fuel... Сита, это то о чем ты читал и хотел найти подтверждение? page 26 - serial il-2 with max. weight 6360 kg, was tested in feb'43... well, what very interesting here, it's 2 load - 6xfab-100 + 4 rs-82, and 3 load - 2xfab-250 + 4 rs-82... apparently, if it's really true, loads could be included in game... page 31 - serial la-5fn with sn 39210367, 3 fuel tanks (460 l) and 3300 kg, was tested in july'43 and what interesting here it's, apparently, confirmation of normal weight of la-5fn=3290-3300 kg in compare with 3320-3340 of some planes (ie, in this case, in game really NOT la-5fn type 41 or just 1944)... by the way, other confirmation of 3290-3300 kg (quote from "Отчет об испытаниях самолета "Лавочкин-5" с мотором М-71 N 39210204") - Quote:
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page 34 - just another lagg-3 of 31 plant, with sn 6672 (ie it's really famous 66 serie), with 3 fuel tanks (400 l) and 3023 kg, was tested in dec'43... page 36 - serial il-2 with ns-37 and max. weight 6150 kg, was tested in nov'43... i think, it's good confirmation of my last post (6160kg=100 kg of bombs and no any rockets)... page 38 - serial yak-9d with sn 0715306, 4 ft (645 l) and 3120 kg, was tested in feb'44... well, apparently it's one of first serial planes for tests, and it's why weight=3120... page 56 - serial il-10, was tested in may'45... i saw here debates about 2xfab-250 for this plane, well, 4 load - 2xfab-250 + 100 kg of other bombs... etc etc etc including many bombers, several lend-lease and captured planes...
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#5
03-30-2013, 12:34 PM
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Regarding the weight, I agree, 3320-3340 kg is too much, but in my opinion, it should be between 3300-3320, like all examples in NII VVS tests.
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#6
03-30-2013, 09:43 PM
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another interesting document - альбом "основные работы новосибирского филиала института летных исследований, выполненные в I полугодии 1942 года"...
page 2 - "improvement of flight data of yak-7" (1942)... in fact it's illustration, for example, of text from Stepanec or other documents which i reading, about aerodynamic changes'42 (shows etalon performance of yak-7(b) m-105pa, in compare with plane before changes, ie around 470 vs. 495 kph at sl) plus noted what gives forced m-105 with 1040 mm (plane showed 520 kph, although, pf in all sources have 1050, so, could be LITTLE more)... page 3 - "improvement of flight data of lagg-3" (1941)... well, looks like experimental lagg-3 with sn 31211062 and 490 kph at sl vs. lagg-3 with 3121715 and 457 from this table (later about this)... other works, mainly, for interest and have no practical meaning...
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#7
04-03-2013, 07:32 PM
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last or one of last useful documents, "Сравнительная таблица летно-тактических данных серийных самолетов «Томагаук», МиГ-3, Як-1 и ЛаГГ-3.", with several performances of soviet-LL planes'41-42...
some notes - mig-3 looks like serial mig-3 am-35a with serial number 3943, slats and reduction 0,732, further original quote with more full performance (in other quotes about 3943 i saw 300 rounds for ubs) - Quote:
yak-1 it's serial yak-1 m-105p of 292 plant with sn 0511 - Quote:
lagg-3 it's, apparently, lagg-3 m-105p (pa?) with sn 3121715 (noted what "water cooler full closed") - Quote:
about p-40 i know not so much, be better if someone else compare this performance with full us/uk datas - moreover, in 4.12 new FMs for these early planes too, right? - but what i see - in 4.11 p-40c has 20.01 sec at 1000 m, in report 18, but speed more conservative...
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