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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-27-2013, 04:27 PM
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Many thanks Sokol!!

-About the prop problem...well I have tried disabling Vsync, and unfortunatelly the problem stills there...anyway, I CANT disable vsync because if so, the game stutters like crazy so...any other idea??? am I the only one with this problem or what?¿?¿?

-My problem with the cockpit cam is that I want to do the movement shown in this video on 1m 32sec:



that LATERAL movement is what I cant do...how can I do that whitout a trakIR?¿?¿?¿?I played long ago on a friends house to CoD (without TrackIR) and I remember that we could do that...

-For the external view, I DONT want to do a "zoom" I just want to get phisically closer to the plane...


-Nice to know about the haze, will test then...


I have been out of the sim world (and CoD) for a bit long, so I have missed a lot of things then, Im interested too in knowing if they changed(lowered) the quality of the land shading with respect to older game versions/patches???hows that now?? because I would say that in some screens/videos I have seen, the land at dusk/dawn seem more "beautiful" like a nicer hazed horizont and a more misty land...right know it still being amazing fliying at 18:00h (best looking terrain for me ever!!) but I would say that it looked beter before, dont know...even the planes seems diferent with a worse quality shader?¿?¿? is me??or Im right??...the shadows (at least in cockpit) look good, but I would say that now they have less resolution than before, as the sight light effect, wich seem different and worse...

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Old 02-27-2013, 06:17 PM
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-About the prop problem...well I have tried disabling Vsync, and unfortunatelly the problem stills there...anyway, I CANT disable vsync because if so, the game stutters like crazy so...any other idea??? am I the only one with this problem or what?¿?¿?

Sorry, I mystype about this, the problem occurs (to me) with Vsync OFF.

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-My problem with the cockpit cam is that I want to do the movement shown in this video on 1m 32sec:

http:// www.youtube.com /watch?v=5Ul3Qebg1rE"

that LATERAL movement is what I cant do...how can I do that whitout a trakIR?¿?¿?¿?
With key that you assigned to "Hold to adjust FOV" + mouse movements.

Go do Controls > Camera and check if are key assigned.


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-For the external view, I DONT want to do a "zoom" I just want to get phisically closer to the plane...
Well, what game provide is Adjust FOV an (small) ZOOM with mouse and specific keys ...

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I have been out of the sim world (and CoD) for a bit long, so I have missed a lot of things then, Im interested too in knowing if they changed(lowered) the quality of the land shading with respect to older game versions/patches???hows that now?? because I would say that in some screens/videos I have seen, the land at dusk/dawn seem more "beautiful" like a nicer hazed horizont and a more misty land...right know it still being amazing fliying at 18:00h (best looking terrain for me ever!!) but I would say that it looked beter before, dont know...even the planes seems diferent with a worse quality shader?¿?¿? is me??or Im right??...the shadows (at least in cockpit) look good, but I would say that now they have less resolution than before, as the sight light effect, wich seem different and worse...
What you observe is correct.
In resume, the graphics are lowered with lastest (oficial and final) patchs.
Is expected to be restored/improved by Team Fusion at some moment in future.

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:05 PM
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"With key that you assigned to "Hold to adjust FOV" + mouse movements.

Go do Controls > Camera and check if are key assigned."

...yeeeesssss many thanks mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!it works like a charm!!!! Im sorry because I thought that it was a "zooming" function and so I never tried it, but YES, it makes what I was looking for hahaha!!!!

about the propeller...so Im the only one with the problem so far????...very weird that you solve the problem by enabling v-sync and I cant do it even enabling too ...maybe the crossfire?¿?¿?


And...only zoom for external view?¿?¿?¿?WTF?¿?¿?¿?

About graphics I knew I was right, sadly ...is there any way to roll back to an older game version?, Now I have a nice rig I would like to test some hard hitting graphics sim!!!

Many thanks mate!!!

EDIT: I think its the "atmospheric scattering" what they have "erased" from the game isnt it???


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Old 02-27-2013, 10:19 PM
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Yes, just it.
See this pictures from Jaws, he use one the first version of game.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=721

But, now this is "water under the bridge".
Although washed, still much beauty in the game graphically.

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Old 02-27-2013, 10:53 PM
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yes!!, great shots!!, I wish I could go back to an older version just for testing, damn it!!!...meanwhile...any advice from some one with a crossfire config?? what is the actual best profile for Cod and crossfire???
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:16 AM
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Hi there.
My advice would be, ofcourse if u have few bucks to spend, get a facetrack or freetrack setup. It cost is just around 30$ with cam and stuff and as i read u are an engineer so u should have some manual skills aswell
Build a clip/cap get a PS3eye Cam and u wouldnt have to worry about head movements

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Phenom x2 965 be almost @ 3.8
Sapphire hd 7850 2gb a bit OCed
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7200rpm hdd
and i get a lot of stuttering and micropause. No matter what ANGELS am i. I just dont get this game.
I tried to fix this but without any success it happens with low medium and high settings with and without AA. Only difference i see is when i lower buildings details and forest.
My Vram is rarely exceeding 1.5gb
Also i noticed that from time to time VRAM is just going "empty" and this is where the micropause comes in... Most annoying during dogfights..
Remember to increase ur "contacts" draw distance

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Old 02-28-2013, 11:26 AM
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Hi there.
My advice would be, ofcourse if u have few bucks to spend, get a facetrack or freetrack setup. It cost is just around 30$ with cam and stuff and as i read u are an engineer so u should have some manual skills aswell
Build a clip/cap get a PS3eye Cam and u wouldnt have to worry about head movements

Also:
My rig is
Phenom x2 965 be almost @ 3.8
Sapphire hd 7850 2gb a bit OCed
8gb ram
7200rpm hdd
and i get a lot of stuttering and micropause. No matter what ANGELS am i. I just dont get this game.
I tried to fix this but without any success it happens with low medium and high settings with and without AA. Only difference i see is when i lower buildings details and forest.
My Vram is rarely exceeding 1.5gb
Also i noticed that from time to time VRAM is just going "empty" and this is where the micropause comes in... Most annoying during dogfights..
Remember to increase ur "contacts" draw distance

Have a good one
Trooph
Hi trooph!!! thaks for the support man!!

You are right, I didnt remember about free track software, indeed, I have a Wii mote and if I can remember well it could be used as a track system, but it was a bit complex to do I think (and its not my "job field" as Im finishing civil engineering hahaha, but I will do my best )...I can remember to facenotrack Ir or something like that

I have noticed that my vram is almost always full all the time, but no stutter happens to me due to that as long as I dont get too low altitude (as 10/15 meters) so my fly is very smooth even at quite low altitude so it shouldnt be the reason of stuttering because if so I wouldnt be able to fly smooth in any situation, and as I say, I can actually fly perfectly smooth (even in combat missions) and at very low altitude no probs...I have the feeling that it has to be something related to the decrease in fps because as soon as I get below 60fps the game stutters a bit, no mater how much below(f.e. 50fps) but it gest obviously worse as fps still decreasing...

the crossfire seems to be working quite well too, but in some situations (I couldnt do many tests yet) I have seen my fps below 60 and GPU usage not at max, wich would suggest a bad profile or not the best one, but not always as I have seen too 94/97% usage in some moments...that said anyway in quite low flight over land my dual 6870 are able to keep up frames at 60fps with barelly a 60%-70% GPU usage wich is amazing

CPU has a weird behaviour too as it uses to be at really low usage (15-20%) in all cores or 90% one core and almost nothing the rest of cores in other situations and I think that seems no good...I have seen some affinity mask somewhere but I dont know if I should use that tweak or its something of the past...

About the contacs draw distance increase...how can I do that mate???

Many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Try the lost planet 2 profile in your Xfire set up.There are more than one in the list with different DX SETTINGS .That made a big difference to me.Good Luck.
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Try the lost planet 2 profile in your Xfire set up.There are more than one in the list with different DX SETTINGS .That made a big difference to me.Good Luck.
Thanks buddy, I have tried several profiles and the result is the same (no difference at all) so Im quite sure it must be some vram related issue...the problem gets really worse as I get into a very cloudy area with a lot of houses and trees under...the frame rate is quite good (although not 60 fps) but things start to stutters a lot. I have ploted a frame TIME graph and I can see some CRAZY high peaks well over 30ms(the acceptable limit) every time I fly low over the trees (and/or when fsp drop below 60) so it could be a problem with the frame time (wich is a very common issue right now for almost all AMD cards)...So I´ve tried with radeon-pro and its auto v-sync (similar to the nvidia dynamic v-sync) but I think it doesnt work with CoD as I cant see any difference when I activate it (in comparsion I can see a huge one in Trine 2 when activated as the frame rate is a LOT more smooth)...so any more idea??Im the only one with this problem so far??? all of you have an smooth low flying over trees cover???

On the other hand I have noticed another weird problem with the sim...I can make a click with the mouse on the cockpit instruments but with the instruments that can "slide" I cant do it?¿?¿? For example the radiator lever...I cant slide it with the mouse...any help here???


//Off topic: Certainly, I have buy (second hand) a PS3 eye cam, and the result with FTNoIr is just.......it has doubled easily the response time and now its very, very smooth and precise even with the face recognition method...I guess that if I build the IR system I would get a very consistent track IR at a fraction of price!!!...what I dont know is why the cam is at 56Hz and not 60Hz?¿?¿?¿? but anyway its by far a lot better than my C300 cam at 30Hz hahaha...//

Many thanks mates!!!
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