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Old 02-27-2013, 12:00 AM
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and that is the extent of your answer ? even with your trackir, if CoD is not configured correctly on your system then the 109 aircraft you are looking at in our example will still be the wrong size in most CoD player setups

the question still is: how can you make sure that the onscreen displayed distant aircraft in your CoD gunsight reticle is 100% displayed correctly in the right size on your pc screen, ie that this distant 109 at 100 meters from you is indeed displayed as a 10 cm wide object on the screen in front of you, and is 1:1 correct size comparison as you would see it from that fighter aircraft in real life with the naked eye on the real gunsight reticle ?

note: we are presuming the pc viewers eyes are at a relatively normal viewing distance from the pc monitor in front of them, and for the purpose of this example they are at the same distance from their pc screen as they would be in the real cockpit from the real gunsight reticle

anyone ?

farber, why dont you measure it on your monitor. make a quick mission with icons on (so you see the distance tag) and a friendly 109, fly 100 or 200 meters directly behind him at 6 'o'clock and have him in your gunsight reticle (which will confirm his exact distance from you), pause game at right moment, measure 109 wingspan on screen

since you havnt produced the answer yet, i suspect you are flying around like oliver in liliput land , and the 109 in front of you is about 30% to small

so whats the answer then ? how can you make sure CoD is correctly configured so that distant 109 is the "right size" (same size as it would be seen with the naked eye from a similar viewing position in real life)
I dont have time....
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 AM
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eh so if you cant even be bothered measuring it

you indicated earlier in this thread that you know what size these distant aircraft would be in real life when measured on a real ww2 gunsight reticle but mow cant be bothered putting a ruler on the screen to measure if it is also displayed correctly in size ? so do you then think/presume they are currently displayed in their correct sizes on your pc screen when you fly around in CoD ?

i would have thought that for most people here, since they have an interest in simulating a ww2 pilots experience, it would seem pretty important to at least see distant aircraft in their right sizes, rather then hunt for miniature dinky-toy objects in a virtual sky that are 30% to small (for many here, exact distortion will depend on end user setup). since we have already some LoD model bugs and LoD model visibility problems already that make these aircraft around us harder to spot, i would have thought displaying these distant aircraft in their right sizes would have been a pretty important starting point for any self professed virtual pilot going around "full real" then again, maybe not and i am presuming to much from my fellow man

so, anybody ?
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:45 AM
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this still has to come to air war sims:

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:48 AM
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eh so if you cant even be bothered measuring it

you indicated earlier in this thread that you know what size these distant aircraft would be in real life when measured on a real ww2 gunsight reticle but mow cant be bothered putting a ruler on the screen to measure if it is also displayed correctly in size ? so do you then think/presume they are currently displayed in their correct sizes on your pc screen when you fly around in CoD ?

i would have thought that for most people here, since they have an interest in simulating a ww2 pilots experience, it would seem pretty important to at least see distant aircraft in their right sizes, rather then hunt for miniature dinky-toy objects in a virtual sky that are 30% to small (for many here, exact distortion will depend on end user setup). since we have already some LoD model bugs and LoD model visibility problems already that make these aircraft around us harder to spot, i would have thought displaying these distant aircraft in their right sizes would have been a pretty important starting point for any self professed virtual pilot going around "full real" then again, maybe not and i am presuming to much from my fellow man

so, anybody ?
Which POV though?! My eyes dont have POV in real life...

I didnt come here to get in a urinating contest with anyone, if you have a point please share it, it seems quite interesting but I dont have time for guessing games. I just cme here to help someone with a question, even if it is a Raaaid thread...

I have to get my end of module assessment in and do an exam...

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Old 02-27-2013, 09:57 AM
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eh so if you cant even be bothered measuring it

you indicated earlier in this thread that you know what size these distant aircraft would be in real life when measured on a real ww2 gunsight reticle but mow cant be bothered putting a ruler on the screen to measure if it is also displayed correctly in size ? so do you then think/presume they are currently displayed in their correct sizes on your pc screen when you fly around in CoD ?

i would have thought that for most people here, since they have an interest in simulating a ww2 pilots experience, it would seem pretty important to at least see distant aircraft in their right sizes, rather then hunt for miniature dinky-toy objects in a virtual sky that are 30% to small (for many here, exact distortion will depend on end user setup). since we have already some LoD model bugs and LoD model visibility problems already that make these aircraft around us harder to spot, i would have thought displaying these distant aircraft in their right sizes would have been a pretty important starting point for any self professed virtual pilot going around "full real" then again, maybe not and i am presuming to much from my fellow man

so, anybody ?
zapatista, I have changed my thinking on this and agree that objects/especially ground in the distance are rendered too small in the game...and speed of aircraft while looking to ones side view/low alt. is way to slow.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:44 AM
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zapatista, I have changed my thinking on this and agree that objects/especially ground in the distance are rendered too small in the game...and speed of aircraft while looking to ones side view/low alt. is way to slow.
you'r halfway there, at least you noticed there IS a problem with ingame planes/ground-objects not being displayed in their correct sizes for many CoD users

and yes, your observations relate to the exact same issue i am trying to raise
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zapatista, I have changed my thinking on this and agree that objects/especially ground in the distance are rendered too small in the game...and speed of aircraft while looking to ones side view/low alt. is way to slow.
if you set your FoV correctly, as just detailed in the previous 2 posts, you WILL see all ingame objects (like distant planes and trucks/tanks) in their correct sizes (and so should be as easy/difficult to spot as they are in real life)

similarly, with your FoV set correctly your sense of speed when flying low to the ground will now be correct
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if you set your FoV correctly, as just detailed in the previous 2 posts, you WILL see all ingame objects (like distant planes and trucks/tanks) in their correct sizes (and so should be as easy/difficult to spot as they are in real life)

similarly, with your FoV set correctly your sense of speed when flying low to the ground will now be correct

So Zap there is 30/70/90 degrees, which is correct
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what size is your monitor ?

and during game play what distance are you most comfortable with as a viewing distance for your monitor ? (eg distance between eyes and monitor)
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what size is your monitor ?

and during game play what distance are you most comfortable with as a viewing distance for your monitor ? (eg distance between eyes and monitor)

24"...2 feet away...thanks Zap
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