the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by mungee

I've started using CoD, seeing that it's not going to be (officially) improved/modded, and do you know what? .... I THINK IT'S GREAT!!
For so long, I kept it "on the shelf", because of:
- it's initial performance problems; and
- the massive amount of negativity that abounded on forums, such as this one.
I'm annoyed with myself for having been so misled about it!
Perhaps it was only CoD's last patch that got it right ... I don't know!
All I can say is that I'm now enjoying CoD very much!

A massively common story, as I can tell from the reactions I get from my movies. Anyway, this is my last post in this thread. It is impossible to get the last word against the hater brigade, especially their most stalwart members, so I'll leave it at this...

[GOA_Potenz]

The real true is that CloD is dead, it was dead since before release, after years of development, my squads mates always said 1 year before release, that the game will fail due to the lack of video preview we recived, i always said that the game will be great, i was soooooo wrong, when i launch it first time after a month of pre order waiting (unfixable mistake) and after reading the first russians reviews i said this team will fix it son, everybody was told that the problem was the E-filter, and we all bought that, the first MG first big lie, were thos video with out sound, as those were made with the avi recording feature that record frame by frame an looks like the game runs perfectly, once i realized that i lost all hope on this game, when they start to turn off features in every patch, it was more obvious, all knows what every patch fix and broke more than fix, so now looking backwards you can esealy see that the sequel was a simply face cover to the real true, the game was already dead and the move to join forces with 777 studios was on the way (in my opinion that should be the great june anounce), after 7 years of development and a year in intensive cares the patient just stop breathing.

Now after see what i seen what 777 studios did with RoF, have complete confidence on that team well organized, and with good and kind comunication with the community i see we will get a great product
forums didn't kill this game, Oleg and co bad managment did it during development and before release.

[Feuerfalke]

In aviation terms: They tried to build an Airbus A380XXL with the team and resources of the Wright-Brothers.

And I'm honest: I'm glad it's over.
777 will make a fresh start and hopefully with one step at a time, rather than reinventing everything.


So, is it our fault?
No. Be it supporters like myself (at least in the beginning) or constant complainers. We all came here for the same hopes and reasons. Just with different ways to express our feelings. But you can't make a brick fly - no matter how loud or sweet you talk to it.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

In aviation terms: They tried to build an Airbus A380XXL with the team and resources of the Wright-Brothers.

And I'm honest: I'm glad it's over.
777 will make a fresh start and hopefully with one step at a time, rather than reinventing everything.


So, is it our fault?
No. Be it supporters like myself (at least in the beginning) or constant complainers. We all came here for the same hopes and reasons. Just with different ways to express our feelings. But you can't make a brick fly - no matter how loud or sweet you talk to it.

If you read Loft's posts on the new forum, you will know what's comming. Loft posted very early on about the lack of interest in accurate and advanced combat flight sim and praised those new arcade flying games made recently with the pay for every gauge and bolt bussines model.
The new game will be a far cry from anything we, il-2 players, take for granted. Online will suck due to limitations of the engine and fragmented community because of a lot of payware.
If you think BOS will follow on Il-2's foot steps you will be in for a surprise.

[GOA_Potenz]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

If you read Loft's posts on the new forum, you will know what's comming. Loft posted very early on about the lack of interest in accurate and advanced combat flight sim and praised those new arcade flying games made recently with the pay for every gauge and bolt bussines model.
The new game will be a far cry from anything we, il-2 players, take for granted. Online will suck due to limitations of the engine and fragmented community because of a lot of payware.
If you think BOS will follow on Il-2's foot steps you will be in for a surprise.

have you tried RoF???

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

have you tried RoF???

Have you read the Rof forums in the last few days.....

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

If you read Loft's posts on the new forum, you will know what's comming. Loft posted very early on about the lack of interest in accurate and advanced combat flight sim and praised those new arcade flying games made recently with the pay for every gauge and bolt bussines model.
The new game will be a far cry from anything we, il-2 players, take for granted. Online will suck due to limitations of the engine and fragmented community because of a lot of payware.
If you think BOS will follow on Il-2's foot steps you will be in for a surprise.

Your obviously not reading the forums there-or rather your reading a lot of stuff that isn't there.

Hey if your bound and determined to be miserable have at it. Were all looking forward to the release of a functional game-something CoD never was.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Your obviously not reading the forums there-or rather your reading a lot of stuff that isn't there.

Hey if your bound and determined to be miserable have at it. Were all looking forward to the release of a functional game-something CoD never was.

Jaws is spot on. I'd say you haven't been reading much.

Loft's answers have been - no we can't, no we are not going to, or maybe later, not at release. It's simple PR fluff as this will be simply a re-skinned ROF. If 777 cared so much about accuracy how come their sim has been out 4 years and the SE5A doesn't even have something as simple as trim?

It's obvious you don't know much about the sim or clod for that matter.

[CWMV]

You guys are that hung up on clickable cockpits eh?

Your bias is making you see things that arent there. Lofts statement is that they have a plan, they are sticking to it, and they do not have time for various and sundry useless crap like clickable pits.

So here's what you have to complain about:

Its staying with DX9. DX9 is stable. DX9 works and is in very wide use. Best market share. Makes sense. No need for you guys to sell your friends down the river like you were ready to when the devs here couldn't make the game work with the specs on the box.

Unknown hybrid pay system. Thats as much as anyone knows, yet everyone here is convinced it'll be pay per gauge. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiight.

"13) Can we expect the clickable cockpits?
No. We create a simulation of air combat (this includes attacking ground targets). The pilot will only receive critical systems, propeller pitch, boost, altitude control, different mechanization, weapons and more. Procedural training device it will not be, it will be a game simulator. We would like to return to the original idea of ​​the "IL-2 Sturmovik", because we believe that it was great."

But they will be to a great extent animated. So what is wrong with this? its exactly what IL2 was and IL2 has been the sim gold standard for 10 years. CoD broke from that form and FAILED.

Controllable vehicles. WHO FREAKIN CARES! FLIGHT SIM!!! Lulz.

So thats the cliffs notes of the big whining issues of the dev diaries. Seems kinda petty no?

Back to shaking you magic 8 balls now.

EDIT: And the SE5A does have trim now, go play the latest release. Just another example of them actually fixing their sim, something that CoD never really got.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

If 777 cared so much about accuracy how come their sim has been out 4 years and the SE5A doesn't even have something as simple as trim?

It does, along with a couple of other planes.

It's obvious you don't know much about the sim or clod for that matter.

It's obvious you've not spend much time with ROF lately.