Quickest/best way to get some more Japanese strike aircraft into the game

[HarryKlein]

You could also add to the list the Ki 30, Ki 51, G3M, P1Y (or the Helldiver for the USN ) but none of them are easy additions.

By trying to cover the whole war, PF was simply too ambitious from the start.
The question is IMHO : what can DT do with their limited means ? (supposing they want to )

Knowing that no matter how, gaps are inevitable.
Should they keep trying to cover the whole war,
or should they focus on a limited periods in order to get at least something complete for all sides ie : pre, early, mid or late war ?

[Macwan]

IMHO the Nell, Lily and Helen are the most needed attack bombers by Japanese side. It's a lot of stuff to do for release as they're all twin engines planes, by the way.
Sub-variants of the Val and Betty could be a plus, sure.

[Pershing]

Quickest/best way is a mass donation to make all essential models for money.
Quickest/best way = to pay for it)
Sorry for me English

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Macwan

IMHO the Nell, Lily and Helen are the most needed attack bombers by Japanese side. It's a lot of stuff to do for release as they're all twin engines planes, by the way.
Sub-variants of the Val and Betty could be a plus, sure.

Those would obviously entail more work for sure...

In the short term the D3A2 might be a good quick addition. It doesn't look like the cockpit is any different than the A1 and the gunner station would be the same too from the looks of it except for the canopy glass which would need a remodel.

In terms of use the D3A1 is very slow but the A2 gives it some speed and climbing power. Unfortunately no further armament options.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Macwan

IMHO the Nell, Lily and Helen are the most needed attack bombers by Japanese side.

I haven't seen good 3-view drawings or interior photographs for the Nell and no planes of the type exist.

There are decent 3-view drawings for the Lily and Helen, and replicas or wrecks which could be used to get interior views, but I haven't seen good pictures of the interiors.

So, these planes could possibly be modeled as AI planes, but it would be very hard to make them flyable - at least to TD standards rather than as mods.

[gaunt1]

Then it looks like there arent many choices for making flyable japanese bombers.
It seems the only planes we can have with cockpits:
- Aichi D3A2
- Mitsubishi G4M2 (with modified G4M1 cockpit)
- Nakajima B6N
- Yokosuka D4Y

There are very few pictures about the latter two, but I think it is still possible to model the pit, based on scale models. 1/48 is detailed enough for that.

Examples:

B6N:

http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/foru...howtopic=55842

D4Y:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling...rt=ASC&pi240=1

EDIT: + maybe the Aichi B7A, and the Nakajima C6N, although the Saiun was a recon aircraft.

[Buren]

Don't forget that there are few very detailed japanese monograph series (e.g: Maru Mechanic, Famous Aircraft of the World etc.).

Most Maru Mechanic issues have detailed drawings and/or paintings of cockpits not found on google image search for example.

Just need to get hold on the issues...

[gaunt1]

Well, I know how to get some of those books, but I think there would be dire consequences if I would post it here. But anyway, I think everyone knows what Im talking about.

Books I found from Maru Mechanic series:

Ki-67 Hiryu, D3A, D4Y Suisei, P1Y & G4M, J2M Raiden & N1K Shiden, Ki-21, C47 (L2D), and B6N.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Buren

Don't forget that there are few very detailed japanese monograph series (e.g: Maru Mechanic, Famous Aircraft of the World etc.).

True. There's a lot of stuff that non-Japanese speakers miss. I'm also sure that there are technical reports on captured planes and possibly even original manuals which aren't available online.

The U.S. Air Force and the Japanese conspired destroy a lot of factory documents and original records, but at least some stuff must survive.

Japanese modders like Western and JapanCat probably have much better access to this information. After all, if plastic model manufacturers can create cockpits and interiors for these planes there must be some information available.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

- Mitsubishi G4M2 (with modified G4M1 cockpit)
- Nakajima B6N
- Yokosuka D4Y

These planes exist as mods, as do a few other Japanese planes.

My choices for Japanese multi-engined types would be the G3M Nell, the H6K Mavis and Ki-67 Hiryu/Peggy.