Was Oleg Maddox too far ahead of his time? - Page 2

He111 · #1 12-14-2012, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon

7 years in developpement...Probably 5 to 7 million $$$... A very narrow niche type of game with so little market...At release the game doesn't even work at 100% with more than half the features removed and you dare to say that whoever was putting the money was not patient enough ?
It was obviously a good decision, since after almost 18 more months of "developpement", the game is not even running well....NO one could fix it without shedding another fortune...
So who is the real responsable for this fiasco ?
We may never know....

IL2 proved a flight sim could be a success, financial success ? I assume so that's why Oleg got the go ahead for CLOD. Yes, Oleg was ahead of his time, he was CUTTING EDGE as they say. problem is technology at the cutting edge is flakey. even so CLOD is great game for me on my powerful desktop .. pity more simmers aren't also traders .. pity more people aren't traders .. good having more than 1 source of income. I bet in 2-3 years time, CLOD will be the sim-of-choice .. that's why some want to kill it off now ..

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Skoshi Tiger · #2 12-14-2012, 05:19 AM

I'ld say he was quite a bit ahead in his vision. You keep on hearing about Moores law and the computing power doubling every 18 months or so, but that doesn't apply to software development.

Most of the software development practices for thing like Il2 is just not keeping up with the hardware. Just need to look at our CPU usage for that.

Funny thing is I was just over at the ROF forum and there are quite a few people (I'm not talking about the people who are at the new IL2 site) expressing their doubt that the ROF engine will be able to handle City/Urban locations like Stalingrad or anything like a reasonably populated map. (There are a lot of them that seem to have fairly realistic understanding of the limits of the engine!)

Hmmm! It's an interesting trip we're on here!

Cheers!

LukeFF · #3 12-15-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon

7 years in developpement...Probably 5 to 7 million $$$... A very narrow niche type of game with so little market...At release the game doesn't even work at 100% with more than half the features removed and you dare to say that whoever was putting the money was not patient enough ?

My point exactly.

SlipBall · #4 12-14-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

I was here long before the sim was cancelled and had high hopes for its success. And no, I'm not enjoying gloating - just trying to point out that all was not rosy with Oleg and Luthier as some people here like to think.

That is interesting, I thought that they had a long history and were friends to each other.

LukeFF · #5 12-15-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall

That is interesting, I thought that they had a long history and were friends to each other.

I didn't mean that the two of them didn't get along with each other - rather that there were things going on behind the scenes that most people don't know about.

(And no, I'm not going to go into details. What was told me was told in confidence).

ATAG_Bliss · #6 12-15-2012, 05:55 AM

You don't have the 1st clue what happened. You don't even know what team members are there from the old team. You weren't here when IL2COD was active, so please don't come here now that it's closed.

A WWII sim on the ROF engine is gonna be an insult to WWII itself.

LukeFF · #7 12-29-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

You don't have the 1st clue what happened.

Yes, I do.

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You don't even know what team members are there from the old team.

Wrong again.

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You weren't here when IL2COD was active, so please don't come here now that it's closed.

I was here long before CloD was released. January 2008 to be exact.

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A WWII sim on the ROF engine is gonna be an insult to WWII itself.

The only thing that's insulting here is your attitude. Let it go already.

Slipstream2012 · #8 12-14-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

FYI, the CLOD project was restarted 3 times under his watch.

FYI, if it wasn't for Oleg and Luthier none of us would be here so why don't you just go and gloat in your own forum, we know what your here for, you spend enough time on your knees in-front of Jason & no we don't want to watch.

I can't understand why someone that lives in Riverside, is constantly trolling forums when there is so much to do and see outside, just goes to show the type of pond-life you are.