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Old 12-02-2012, 02:10 AM
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The sequel announcement can not be made till all negotiations are over. No disrespect meant. This is just how business works. You can not trust a party that gives out negotiations details without prior agreement. This is easy to understand even in countries without 100% free economy. Just common sense.
I think Ataros is absolutely correct. We just have to give them the benefit of the doubt (for now) and be patient. As a community we have no idea of the complexities and complications facing the company so berating them over the perceived delay just seems childish. I suspect an announcement will be made when the company is good and ready to make it. In the meantime, we have a pretty good little sim to play with. Not exactly perfect and certainly not what was originally intended but still very challenging, lots of fun and just so much better than it was just 6 months ago. However, if you think you've been cheated and abused and no one has listened to a word you've had to say and you don't want to have anything more to do with these people then hey, that's fine too. No one is holding a gun to your head. Vote with your feet and go.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:42 PM
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They should have a news page on there website informing the community of future developments with exciting things to look forward to like this here.

http://riseofflight.com/Blogs/default.aspx
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:42 PM
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If 1C now has total control of MG then they had better appoint a decent PR manager. BS tried to do a good job but appears to have been gagged by 1C management. Consequently the rumours start flying, what are they trying to hide?? maybe nothing.

Possibly at this stage the future of the series is going to depend on supprise with what the next stage of the series will contain. You don't want the opposition to gain any head start (who ever they maybe) and beat you to the punch.

Oleg was a good PR person because he at least kept the community informed where he could, ok it was always 2 weeks away (hence the joke) but I don't think 1C has anyone capable of doing the job of PR if they are going to tie their hands behind their back.

Thank you BS for trying to fill the role to the best of your ability seeing the restrictions placed upon you prevented a lot of information forthcoming.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:43 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right,
Well than it is a good thing that no one said two wrongs make a right!

Yet you seem to be under the impression that someone did?

Allow me, Do not confuse me providing an example of how most game makers cut-and-run after only a couple of months of support with me saying two wrongs make a right.

I simply responded to those who think or feel they got treated poorly by 1C..

By providing an example that shows 1C treats its customer far better than most game makers when it comes to support..

Hope that helps! S!

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just because they are slightly better than the SH5 lot doesn't make them good.
Slightly better?

So let me see if I understand you correctly here..

The makers of SH5 stopped all support of SH5 a couple of months after the release of SH5..

Where as the makers of CoD (1C) supported CoD for well over a year after the release of CoD..

And you say that is only 'slightly better'?

Hun..

Well that does shed some light on just how unrealistic the expectations are of a lot of flight sim users like you IMHO..

Especially when you take into account the SH5 support resulted in the death of the series and CoD support resulted in a sequel!
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:05 AM
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Let us be honest the whining, complaining and "feeling hard done" by problem existed well before the game was even released.

It is not surprising things got to the state they are now in.
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Old 12-05-2012, 01:13 PM
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I'll keep coming here as long as I get to read comical posts complaining that the devs aren't providing hourly updates on how the sequel is progressing.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:36 PM
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So after all the waffle you still think they communicate ok -oh well.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:42 PM
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I don't need someone holding my hand every day, so I think the communication is fine. When they have something to announce I'm sure they will communicate it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:51 PM
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So after all the waffle you still think they communicate ok -oh well.
Not sure if your trying to miss my point.. But it sure seems like it

Assuming that you are not trying to miss it and just still don't get it..

Allow me to give it one more try..

The point you seem to be missing is that I am saying 1C is communicating better and providing more support than 'other' if not 'most' game making companies..

And in support of my claim I gave you an example of a recent game maker that provided no communication and no support after just a few months

The contrast here being 1C was still communicating and providing support for well over a year..

Does that help?

If not feel free to PM me where I can give you more examples, in that I hate to muddy up the waters of this thread spoon feeding you what should be obvious
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:35 PM
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I think the problem Ace is that we were so used to Oleg communicating regularly with us with the old series that most of us take that as the line in the sand.
Sadly since the change of the guard that sort of communication style has ceased, too bad. If 1C could only see it's way clear to appoint a permanent PR person for this forum most of the speculation and runours would disappear.
As I've said before BS did a good job under a difficult situation but his hands seem to have been tied behind his back, now all communication seems to have stopped. Ok a lot of that we could to some extent lay the blame on ourselves because of the moans and complaints that were aired on the forum, 80% of it can be delivered to 1C for releasing a product to the market that was far from ready.
Lets hope that the future of the series evolves with better PR than this first effort. Surely if a permanent PR person was appointed with Russian and English language as BS appeared to have, this would be a major step forward with customer relations.
The PR person doesn't necessarily have to come from the MG development team but could be appointed from the wider 1C staff so long as they had the orthority to give out progress information (not secretive development information that may affect the team) that would gives us all confidence in the future of this sim and bring back the support that will start to drift away, I believe that situation has already started.
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