too easy on impossible!

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by zjazd18

8k archers wont even scratch paladins with stoneskin, 500 necro either, , 500 vampires aswell, 5k skeletons is a joke, 6k zombies might hurt but for them to get there will take some time, and u will have summons . So all u have to do is slow 2 stacks of ghosts, use burning and lightining rage.

Well as a Soothsayer, even with stone skin those vampires bites my paladins for 10-15 units on a hit. Ghosts arent really a problem, I'm able to almost kill them before they get to me, but after few rounds, I'm left with 1/2 paladins, about 20% of my whole army and still have to deal with vampires, zombies and skeletons/necros I could't finish.

Believe me, I've played The Legend, Armored Princess and Crossworlds many times, been thru many tough fights, but this one is really tricky. I need some abusive method, not cheating, but something I will be able to win with, no matter what I lose. The bad thing is I'm limited by units I can get (no Rune Mages and Green Dragons)

[ironballs]

did you upgraded the pehonix to the maximu (3rd) level spell?
the storngest hit I got for him was ~700 marauders (level 3 unit) that took about half his HP....

in any case, a few pointers to help the battle:
1. use any buffing wanderer scrolls you might have.
2. use the Valkyrie buff before the battle (gives +initiative & +movement).
3. remember the phoenix attacks 3 adacjent enemies at 1 hit - so select to attack the weakest unit (so the retaliation will be the lowest) - and then all 3 will get the 'burning' state - which is deadly for large stacked units.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by ironballs

did you upgraded the pehonix to the maximu (3rd) level spell?
the storngest hit I got for him was ~700 marauders (level 3 unit) that took about half his HP....

in any case, a few pointers to help the battle:
1. use any buffing wanderer scrolls you might have.
2. use the Valkyrie buff before the battle (gives +initiative & +movement).
3. remember the phoenix attacks 3 adacjent enemies at 1 hit - so select to attack the weakest unit (so the retaliation will be the lowest) - and then all 3 will get the 'burning' state - which is deadly for large stacked units.

Of course, I have almost all my spells at lv 3. With 16 defense, its not problem for Zalaron's units to do 2,5k+ dmg to my phoenix in single hit.
1. I do
2. I do
3. I know

I need some tricky and clever tactic, that's all.

[zjazd18]

Originally Posted by Lancian

Well as a Soothsayer, even with stone skin those vampires bites my paladins for 10-15 units on a hit. Ghosts arent really a problem, I'm able to almost kill them before they get to me, but after few rounds, I'm left with 1/2 paladins, about 20% of my whole army and still have to deal with vampires, zombies and skeletons/necros I could't finish.

Believe me, I've played The Legend, Armored Princess and Crossworlds many times, been thru many tough fights, but this one is really tricky. I need some abusive method, not cheating, but something I will be able to win with, no matter what I lose. The bad thing is I'm limited by units I can get (no Rune Mages and Green Dragons)

Well im telling you how i did it recently on somebody else mage char so strategy is viable. Just replace one unit with royal thorns, u will have 3 summoning units. As for my own playthrough this fight was a joke on paladin hero.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by zjazd18

Well im telling you how i did it recently on somebody else mage char so strategy is viable. Just replace one unit with royal thorns, u will have 3 summoning units. As for my own playthrough this fight was a joke on paladin hero.

Are we talking about impossible ?
Well I will try to replace rangers for thorns and see if it makes any good.

[zjazd18]

Originally Posted by Lancian

Are we talking about impossible ?
Well I will try to replace rangers for thorns and see if it makes any good.

I'm playing on imposs, but that mage was on hard if i remember correctly. You can provide save and i'll try to help you more, coz my paladin is just op at this point, and im having no fun finishing game.

[Bel1eve]

I beat that fight as 32 soothsayer with 70% of your stats.
Get ancient ents from elf island / 5lvl from orc underground castle, cyclops or trolls or whatever he sells(East island i think).
Greasy mist + phoenix + Peacefulness on palas/ents spam defend and fire arrows etc.

Now I've been stuck for 2 days at Ele Taera at 37 with 12k leadership/15 atk/20def/34int 100 mana , red dragons,ogres,ents,cyclopes,catapult.Its really impossible for soothsayer i think.

[Lancian]

Originally Posted by Bel1eve

I beat that fight as 32 soothsayer with 70% of your stats.
Get ancient ents from elf island / 5lvl from orc underground castle, cyclops or trolls or whatever he sells(East island i think).
Greasy mist + phoenix + Peacefulness on palas/ents spam defend and fire arrows etc.

Thanks for the tip, I'm totally gonna try this one !

[Lancian]

FINALLY MADE IT !

The one and only trick that was really needed was to get enough tanky units and start with greasy mist+gudridas rage+fire rain. Even when my trolls and black dragons died both in round 2 (dunno how but 6k enemy skeleton archers just one shotted my black drags even under greasy mist :O), I have managed to burn those undead scumbags to ashes with phoenix and paladins under iron skin.
Yeah and...only 30 paladins of my 19k leadership army survived

But hey ! Impossible is possible !

[zjazd18]

Sorry didnt know you were fine with having losses would sugest other strategies. So is mage that weak or pala that op?