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Old 11-06-2012, 03:19 AM
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Thanks for the insights. I've modified the Orc Hunter entry and also added your fix for Hilda's arrows (thanks). For the Necromancer entry, I think you're saying the problem is they have a hidden mind immunity, not that magic shackles doesn't work on them. I updated that too and moved it to the units section.

If anybody has a fight handy where they can try other mind magic on necromancers it would be good to confirm their mind immunity extends to all mind spells to validate our diagnosis.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:27 AM
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It's definitely the case, it's stated plainly in the necromant.atom file.

The problem is twofold: First that Necromancers aren't listed as being immune to mind spells, and second that Magic Shackle isn't listed as being a mind spell. It definitely wasn't in AP.

Don't forget the Witch Hunters not having the mind immunity that they are listed as having.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:31 AM
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It's definitely the case, it's stated plainly in the necromant.atom file.

The problem is twofold: First that Necromancers aren't listed as being immune to mind spells, and second that Magic Shackle isn't listed as being a mind spell. It definitely wasn't in AP.

Don't forget the Witch Hunters not having the mind immunity that they are listed as having.
Thanks for clarifying, I thought I was missing something! I'll go make updates now.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:02 AM
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I've modified the Orc Hunter entry
Ok, now I'm confused as to where the "Control Animal" thing came from. Is there another unit with that ability and someone confused the two? I finally had an (enemy) Orc Hunter do it's training ability, and that correctly summoned a unit of snakes. So it seems it's working properly.

At best I could say that the AI doesn't prioritize it enough, as summon extra stacks of units should definitely be given priority over other actions, but that's a bit nit-picky.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:21 AM
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Ok, now I'm confused as to where the "Control Animal" thing came from. Is there another unit with that ability and someone confused the two? I finally had an (enemy) Orc Hunter do it's training ability, and that correctly summoned a unit of snakes. So it seems it's working properly.

At best I could say that the AI doesn't prioritize it enough, as summon extra stacks of units should definitely be given priority over other actions, but that's a bit nit-picky.
Druids had both a bear summoning ability, and a 'Control Animal' ability. I get the feeling maybe someone attached the wrong ability to the correct tooltip and visual info.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:28 AM
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Druids had both a bear summoning ability, and a 'Control Animal' ability. I get the feeling maybe someone attached the wrong ability to the correct tooltip and visual info.
Well, the Orc Hunters ability is correct in that its function matches its description. Maybe whoever reported this bug meant to describe a bug with Druids rather than Orc Hunters?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:32 AM
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Well, the Orc Hunters ability is correct in that its function matches its description. Maybe whoever reported this bug meant to describe a bug with Druids rather than Orc Hunters?
Here is the original post: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=363. He said the hunters charmed his stack of snakes using control animal. Might they have used another ability to do the charming? I don't remember what all they do.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:38 AM
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Here is the original post: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=363. He said the hunters charmed his stack of snakes using control animal. Might they have used another ability to do the charming? I don't remember what all they do.
Nope, Training is their only ability. Maybe there's some sort of bug that allows them to use it on enemy stacks as well as summon their own stack?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:40 AM
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Nope, Training is their only ability. Maybe there's some sort of bug that allows them to use it on enemy stacks as well as summon their own stack?
That would be pretty cool if they made an ability that versatile. I'd kinda rather keep that ability and update the tooltip. Hard to know what's WAI. Hopefully one of us can test it soon.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:29 AM
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Druids had both a bear summoning ability, and a 'Control Animal' ability. I get the feeling maybe someone attached the wrong ability to the correct tooltip and visual info.
I just found my first druids today and noticed that, too! Control animal says it summons, but then goes on to say the troops fight for you for two turns. That really sounds like it's supposed to be a charm to me.

I finally opened up both the elf and the orc islands and could potentially buy both druids and orc hunters for testing (maybe tomorrow... election is too distracting ). Tooltip/description issues are what's going on if I had to guess.

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