Check that all your guns on the Brit fighters are actually firing bullets

macro · #1 10-31-2012, 01:30 PM

Hi all

I have never been in fmbat all.

I only have 2 loadouts- default and custom. The custom one was made for all my planes when game first came out. I never bothered changing them.

I went into fmb and i could set the loadout of the plane to custom and it had the loadout that i use online in there. Iv tried shooting at ground to see if they are fireing but i cant tell. Anyone got a vid so i can see the difference?

notafinger! · #2 10-31-2012, 02:15 PM

Can I ask where the proof is that red guns aren't working? Have you considered that the game engine is not going to render every single bullet impact? For example, when a lot of bombs go off at once the game stops rendering explosions in order not to cripple your FPS. I go into FMB and shoot at the water using my custom Spit or Hurri loadout and I see a two rows of splashes. I then change every gun to fire a different color tracer and see the same amount of splashes. Load all AP and shoot at a bomber and everybody inside is killed in the first burst.

This really seems like a phantom problem and spreading misinformation through the community with no evidence to back up the claim.

ATAG_Snapper · #3 10-31-2012, 02:35 PM

@Notafinger: If you can't express an honest concern about an aspect of Cliffs of Dover in the Official 1C Forum without fear of "spreading misinformation through the community with no evidence to back up the claim".....then please advise where a concern MAY be expressed that meets your approval.

notafinger! · #4 10-31-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

@Notafinger: If you can't express an honest concern about an aspect of Cliffs of Dover in the Official 1C Forum without fear of "spreading misinformation through the community with no evidence to back up the claim".....then please advise where a concern MAY be expressed that meets your approval.

All I'm asking is for some evidence that the guns aren't shooting bullets. No drama please.

5./JG27.Farber · #5 10-31-2012, 02:52 PM

I asked some true red pilots I know and they said they had not noticed it.

GF_Mastiff · #6 11-01-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I asked some true red pilots I know and they said they had not noticed it.

they had not noticed cause they didn't know it was wrong, case in-point,

I and several others found the FMB to show when you pull up a spitfire and then go to the properties tab and then the ammo load outs section; you can see theres nothing in the box.

So you open it up but you cant get the list to show the custom load out..

so you have to make the appropriate changes and there ya go it works..

The only reason I knew this wasn't working was I was shooting a ju88 and noticed that only the
effects showed one wing being hit by one stream on each of the left and right wings..

So I did a test and fired in the water and saw only 2 guns actually spiting bullets out, whereas the
others were not.. only animation was there.

So I loaded all tracers and saw only tracers coming out of the number 1 gun and 8 gun nothing coming out of the inner guns...

So I then went into the FMB to look at the spitfire and properties and that's when I saw that the ammo load-outs box's was empty in the properties box, pull down list has the custom list but I couldn't get the load-outs to load. So I made a default ammo load out and saved it which saved and shows 2 defaults which now tells me this part of the game is broken.

now since your asking for proof which I won't show you... you can actual go look at it your self, if you have no interest to check it, then;

I wonder if this has any thing to do with some of us with 2 installs?
where the user folder may have been running the beta version, and then deleting that beta version and then loading up the official version?

you 109 pilots have a habit of not sharing 109 information with us, so why do we want to do the same for you?

Torian · #7 11-01-2012, 12:35 PM

@ notafinger and krupi
Give me a break. "misinformation"??...a "bandwagon feel about it"???
If I was the only 1 who had observed this and TESTED it then u might have some grounds to impune my motives. This is a bug that can affect players loadouts. Did I say it does affect every players loadouts ? My suggestion was to TEST it and make sure all the guns were actually firing. It was not long before others confirmed my findings in their own loadouts. If u can explain how this is misinformation I'd truly be greatful. Perhaps it is a steamcloud issue or who knows what but it is very real. At least it's fixable for those with the problem.

5./JG27.Farber · #8 11-01-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GF_Mastiff

they had not noticed cause they didn't know it was wrong, ...

now since your asking for proof which I won't show you... you can actual go look at it your self, if you have no interest to check it, then;

you 109 pilots have a habit of not sharing 109 information with us, so why do we want to do the same for you?

Could be.

I did check it out myself... I could not find the bug... Why wont you show it us?

I didnt know this was a red vs blue thing...

Im not so muched bothered if this thing exists but what casued it.

macro · #9 10-31-2012, 03:34 PM

Calm down boys.

Thats why i asked for a vid from someone who has had the problem. I wamt to see what the difference looks like and if my situation fitted those who have had the problem.

How am i supposed to post proof of the problem if i dont even know for sure if i had it. Rather arrogant post tbh. Thanks for your input but i'll post what i want not what you think i should post!

ATAG_Snapper · #10 10-31-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by notafinger!

All I'm asking is for some evidence that the guns aren't shooting bullets. No drama please.

No drama? Fine. Please don't say we are "spreading misinformation through the community with no evidence to back up our claim" despite my posts to the contrary. That was deliberately offensive IMHO.

Your cursory check of belt loads gave little specifics to make a convincing argument. For instance, what convergences/elevations did you use to effect sufficient dispersion to visually see that you had all eight guns actually hitting the water? Obviously if you used a standard convergence/elevation of just 250 yards or do the dispersion will be so small that you can't tell if two, four, six, or eight guns are indeed actually creating splashes in the water. Perhaps you did actually spread them widely between 150 and 1000 yards -- you didn't say.

The Spitfire/Hurricane models have been so goofed up over these past 18 months -- and still are -- I'm surprised anyone with an open mind would take anything for granted, much less derisively dismiss a true concern over something as critical to gameplay as ordnance and firepower.