No Loss thoughts?

[zjazd18]

Well it's the hardest point of the game, those 3 hero battles, depending on your luck they will differ on difficulty, for me Eric was completly joke, ahriman pretty doable, and necromancer hard stuff. Next 3 island are pretty easy stuff, and spider battle being only thing that could give you a trouble, if u dont have trolls that's it. Starting area to avoid headache - paladin and secure couple of call of nature scrolls then u are good to go.

[DGDobrev]

Well, that's the thing... I have only an hour or two of play time a day cause I need to work, and I would hate to see a decent-looking game hitting the brick wall into the necromancer in the cave who spawned with 5k leadership instead of 3k. So checking everything out may not provide any accurate info in the end.

I may still do it though. I would feel much better if I see that I can count on 3-4 Soothsayers on the first island rather than just 2. That allows for splitting similar to the 4x1 Inquisitors in KBAP, which raises the odds at getting no loss a great deal.

We just need to find the way, I guess However, having a low-leadership count Ahriman and Necromancer, along with a Call Collosus scroll seems to be extremely tough to get.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Well, that's the thing... I have only an hour or two of play time a day cause I need to work, and I would hate to see a decent-looking game hitting the brick wall into the necromancer in the cave who spawned with 5k leadership instead of 3k. So checking everything out may not provide any accurate info in the end.

I may still do it though. I would feel much better if I see that I can count on 3-4 Soothsayers on the first island rather than just 2. That allows for splitting similar to the 4x1 Inquisitors in KBAP, which raises the odds at getting no loss a great deal.

We just need to find the way, I guess However, having a low-leadership count Ahriman and Necromancer, along with a Call Collosus scroll seems to be extremely tough to get.

Call Colossus may be cheesable is what I'm thinking. Y'know, break eggs until you get the right scroll. Not sure, just a guess. I never tried that with wanderer scrolls in KBAP, it might work.

That said, I'm still fairly sure you could do the spider without losses using Maidens, Jotuns, and Jarls, and maybe some other stuff. You just need something that can tank the spider while others kill all the spiders.

[zjazd18]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

That said, I'm still fairly sure you could do the spider without losses using Maidens, Jotuns, and Jarls, and maybe some other stuff. You just need something that can tank the spider while others kill all the spiders.

What if Maiden dies from ranged attack, that boss do randomly u cant ressurect her. Only super buffed army that can dish tons of dmg in few rounds would stand a chance to do it, but then again boss retaliate on every single attack even ranged.
Don't see any other option than trolls to do it no-loss.

[DGDobrev]

Trolls were the most viable option for no-loss in the previous installments of KB too. But let's just get there and see... As things stand, there sure looks to be a way to do no-loss, but it requires a wicked game setup which I doubt we will see happening very often.

In the end, if one manages it, then it's manageable by all. KBAP/CW also had great and poor setups. Thing is, we can't tell before a scanner appears

[unicornxp]

Well, I tried my best to beat the black knight without call of nature(i have lv2 healing)....this need too much S/L and i cant do the same way to beat next necromancer with no loss

maybe lv3 healing could be possible?



quicksave added

[DGDobrev]

Bad roll... As it was pointed out in this thread, the leadership of Ahriman and/or the Necromancer varies greatly, much more than in KBAP/CW. This can really turn a no-loss challenge into a hopeless one. Not easy to fight units worth about 6000+ leadership on level 4 or 5.

Since you are posting it, and you did show that you're really good in KBAP/CW and beat the game in record time, that is the only conclusion I can draw.

[Loopy]

Getting level 5 is pretty important IMO. Make sure you get the +exp medals ASAP and kill mobs to get up to level 4 before turning in quests/picking up exp bonuses. If you aren't level 5 before ahriman you should be afterward.